Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
I have been considering building it into PieFed, if votes became public. There would be a pool of 1000+ bot accounts which will vote on behalf of anyone who wants it. When a vote is cast one of the proxies would be randomly chosen to federate the vote instead.
It would still make it near impossible to audit voting behavior from any instance if such practices came into effect. A single instance using that mechanism in a malicious way could seriously manipulate votes and it would be very hard to tell it was happening.
I have this brilliant original idea, scroll down, and here you & @[email protected] are…
I was thinking an app like Voyager could help vote from a non-posting account. Maybe it’d need to route through a proxy to better obscure the connection between a posting and non-posting account. Seeing PieFed, suppose you could try that route instead but your idea might be more secure. Folks just have to trust you I suppose hehe. Maybe one could build greater trust with a Lemmy app (Voyager) than an instance (PieFed) if they proved the app kept stuff private locally, or am I wrong?
I like the idea - if the lemmy devs do implement public voting I’d definitely move over. Not only does it maintain the (current) state of voter visibility, but it also protects from the frequently cited admin and kbin/mbin exploits. Trusting one admin is far easier than trusting every admin.
I was actually having similar thoughts after reading the post (forking lemmy) but idk if I have the time to run an instance.
Let’s create separate accounts for voting and for posting so to improve anonymity and freedom of expression.
I have been considering building it into PieFed, if votes became public. There would be a pool of 1000+ bot accounts which will vote on behalf of anyone who wants it. When a vote is cast one of the proxies would be randomly chosen to federate the vote instead.
Wouldn’t that set off every voting ring detector?
I don’t know it’s just a brain fart fantasy at the moment, haven’t seriously looked into it. But afaik there is no voting ring detection in Lemmy.
It would still make it near impossible to audit voting behavior from any instance if such practices came into effect. A single instance using that mechanism in a malicious way could seriously manipulate votes and it would be very hard to tell it was happening.
User’s votes anonymization through this system looks quite nice for me.
I have this brilliant original idea, scroll down, and here you & @[email protected] are…
I was thinking an app like Voyager could help vote from a non-posting account. Maybe it’d need to route through a proxy to better obscure the connection between a posting and non-posting account. Seeing PieFed, suppose you could try that route instead but your idea might be more secure. Folks just have to trust you I suppose hehe. Maybe one could build greater trust with a Lemmy app (Voyager) than an instance (PieFed) if they proved the app kept stuff private locally, or am I wrong?
I like the idea - if the lemmy devs do implement public voting I’d definitely move over. Not only does it maintain the (current) state of voter visibility, but it also protects from the frequently cited admin and kbin/mbin exploits. Trusting one admin is far easier than trusting every admin.
I was actually having similar thoughts after reading the post (forking lemmy) but idk if I have the time to run an instance.
Please don’t man, that makes matter even worst.
Literally what Ill do if this happens. One account that gets no notifications posts no content and votes, then another account where I comment.