So I shop around to get some bits and pieces for a good home made meal, and I notice some items say, a pack of vegan burgers, these are more expensive than regular burgers!

I’m not a vegan but I’m curious as to why these items are priced as such, it’s a bit of a pain for people who can only eat gluten free food as those items are priced high too. The bread we get for me grandpapa is pricey for what you get.

Is it different production methods that make it pricey? You’d think with healthier, easier to get ingredients would be cheaper than producing regular non vegan items.

  • @lath
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    Yeah. Healthy food is expensive to make, maintain and transport. It’s a luxury in our current state.

    • @[email protected]
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      Neither vegan nor gluten free food is “healthier” than other food. It’s a question of scale and target demographic.

      • @[email protected]
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        63 months ago

        Red meat and processed meat are classed as carcinogenic and have plenty of LDL cholesterol. Its not that hard to be healthier than that.

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          But now you’re cherry picking food. Fish and chicken is good and healthy food, why didn’t you mention those instead. Pure sugar is both vegan and gluten free, but you wouldn’t call that healthy would you?

          There is nothing unhealthy about gluten if your body can tolerate it. So vegan, gluten free and the opposite are all perfectly valid options for a healthy diet. You could also have an unhealthy diet within those 3 categories as well.

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            from the OP

            a pack of vegan burgers, these are more expensive than regular burgers!

            I don’t think they meant fish burgers when they said regular burgers. And sugar isn’t generally considered a vegan substitute for an animal product.

      • tiredofsametab
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        People with Cron’s or celiac would beg to differ on the gluten free part. But, yes scale and other factors definitely matter

        • @[email protected]
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          103 months ago

          That’s not “healthier” in the general sense, that’s like saying peanuts aren’t healthy because some people have allergies to them.

          Gluten isn’t inherently not healthy because a sub set of the population can’t process it correctly.

    • @[email protected]
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      beans and onions are famously difficult to grow and transport, yes.

      we live in a time where with the magic of freezers we can literally make bags of mostly nutritionally complete food that can be kept frozen for at least a year without any loss of quality, and then you can just toss that in a frying pan when you want to eat it. Healthy food isn’t a luxury, it’s quite cheap and easy and everyone would have access to it if it weren’t for a small amount of abjectly evil people actively preventing it.

      • @lath
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        -33 months ago

        Frozen food is less nutritious than fresh food. And maintaining it frozen at the required level needed to maintain the minimum of nutrition is expensive, both during distribution and storage. If the company even bothers to respect that.

        By the time those frozen veggies reach your freezer for you to keep them up to a year, their nutritional value might be so low you’d be better off eating cardboard.

        Adbot please! Scientists can’t figure out how to keep ice crystals from fucking shit up at the genetic level in industry-specific cryogenic pods and you expect me to believe a Walmart level freezer can keep food fresh and unspoiled after they imported it from halfway across the world?

        Just… go away.

        • @[email protected]
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          33 months ago

          for the record, all of this is utter and complete nonsense and you are out of your mind, just so no one reads this and takes it seriously.

          Modern flash freezing is basically magic that suspends time, you lose maybe 1% of nutrients and even extremely fragile stuff like berries don’t lose much quality so long as you don’t thaw and re-freeze them.

          https://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/food-safety-basics/freezing-and-food-safety

          here’s an article from the USDA explicitly stating that freezing doesn’t destroy nutrients.

          • @lath
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            Lies! It’s all lies! Don’t believe the magic-touting adbot! They’re just a freezer shill!

            My mistake about nutrients in frozen fresh food. Everything else though, just your average adbot lies.

              • @lath
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                genuine answer: oh yeah, I’m fine. Thanks. I was going for that approach. Glad to see it worked.