Do I have a citation that starvation exists in capitalist countries as well? I don’t think comparing the rest of the world to the US, which is extraordinarily well-positioned economically for a variety of reasons, makes much sense. Even so, we have 15-30 million people in the US who experience occasional or chronic food insecurity.
As far as Cuba, who knows how they would have done without decades of a US trade embargo. Venezuela has suffered under looting and misrule by authoritarian dictators, not communism.
oh, a capitalist economy? yep, they all feature people on the lower economic rung starving. check out the industrial revolution in the UK for a great example.
That’s a nice try at a joke, but in real life, it sure has been tried and it’s brutal. I think I already suggested looking into industrial revolution era Great Britain? The insane shit that happened there is the reason we have regulatrions on capitalism. Of course, we still get kids, politicians, morons and ornery old people who aren’t very well informed about history and don’t comprehend why we don’t do “real capitalism”.
There’s no perfect system, which is why mixed markets are better than free markets, but #Capitalism is definitely the least worst economic system that’s been devised so far.
You’re definitely great at being stubborn about your complete lack of awareness of reality. It’s worth noting that you’re incorrect, as well as that you’re fighting a strawman: there is not even the most remote chance that the US is implementing any form of communism.
I’d suggest perhaps becoming more informed about the realities of poor nutrition caused by lack of access to food in the US. One issue is that due to how capitalism works, people of lower economic status often lack access to nutritious food. It’s more profitable to distribute cheap addictive crap, and it’s not profitable to try to sell higher quality food in poor areas. Apparently according to the horrific political beliefs held by people such as yourself, poor people don’t deserve to have access to higher quality, more nutritious food.
Meanwhile you have Republicans acting enraged about the idea of feeding poor children free nutritionally balanced lunch at school, which is sometimes the only reasonable meal they can get in the entire day. It’s puzzling how people who claim to have the moral high ground on so many issues take completely indefensible, nakedly evil positions on that supposedly due to some strongly held economic belief. It’s enough to make me hope that Christianity is true so folks like that can be tortured by satan for an infinite amount of time (that’s what Christians believe happens to evil people, right?)
One issue is that due to how capitalism works, people of lower economic status often lack access to nutritious food.
That isn’t a problem with capitalism. In communism, all economic levels except the elite have a lack of access to any food.
My friends who survived communism would disagree with you. Do you have a cite to show otherwise?
Looking at Venezuela, I have not seen anything like that here, have you? or Cuba? When I was in Cuba, malnutrition was common.
Do I have a citation that starvation exists in capitalist countries as well? I don’t think comparing the rest of the world to the US, which is extraordinarily well-positioned economically for a variety of reasons, makes much sense. Even so, we have 15-30 million people in the US who experience occasional or chronic food insecurity.
As far as Cuba, who knows how they would have done without decades of a US trade embargo. Venezuela has suffered under looting and misrule by authoritarian dictators, not communism.
Cuba is only embargoed from us. Pretty much everyone else in the world trades with them.
Authoritarian dictators. Communism. It is all the same thing.
Ha ha, no. If that’s the angle you’re coming from that explains a lot.
Name one that hasn’t been the same.
oh, a capitalist economy? yep, they all feature people on the lower economic rung starving. check out the industrial revolution in the UK for a great example.
@zeppo @wintermute_oregon Nobody starves under #Capitalism, real #Capitalism hasn’t been tried
That’s a nice try at a joke, but in real life, it sure has been tried and it’s brutal. I think I already suggested looking into industrial revolution era Great Britain? The insane shit that happened there is the reason we have regulatrions on capitalism. Of course, we still get kids, politicians, morons and ornery old people who aren’t very well informed about history and don’t comprehend why we don’t do “real capitalism”.
@zeppo Similarly, because of what has happened in #Russia, #China, #Nazi #Germany etc., most Western nations have regulations on #Communism and #Socialism as well.
There’s no perfect system, which is why mixed markets are better than free markets, but #Capitalism is definitely the least worst economic system that’s been devised so far.
Starvation in America is rare, as is the case in most modern capitalist societies. It is still a normal condition in communist countries.
You’re definitely great at being stubborn about your complete lack of awareness of reality. It’s worth noting that you’re incorrect, as well as that you’re fighting a strawman: there is not even the most remote chance that the US is implementing any form of communism.
I’d suggest perhaps becoming more informed about the realities of poor nutrition caused by lack of access to food in the US. One issue is that due to how capitalism works, people of lower economic status often lack access to nutritious food. It’s more profitable to distribute cheap addictive crap, and it’s not profitable to try to sell higher quality food in poor areas. Apparently according to the horrific political beliefs held by people such as yourself, poor people don’t deserve to have access to higher quality, more nutritious food.
“The dual burden of malnutrition in the United States and the role of non-profit organizations☆” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6214863/
" Facts About Child Hunger in America" : https://www.nokidhungry.org/who-we-are/hunger-facts
Meanwhile you have Republicans acting enraged about the idea of feeding poor children free nutritionally balanced lunch at school, which is sometimes the only reasonable meal they can get in the entire day. It’s puzzling how people who claim to have the moral high ground on so many issues take completely indefensible, nakedly evil positions on that supposedly due to some strongly held economic belief. It’s enough to make me hope that Christianity is true so folks like that can be tortured by satan for an infinite amount of time (that’s what Christians believe happens to evil people, right?)