After being left on read by the mods this is the next step in my attempt in getting clarification on how my comment could be read as ‘racist’, the cited ban reason.

Context:

This comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/11028531 which was (posted exactly as it was):


readsettlers.org

CW for genocidal racism

“I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace unless we get rid of the Negroes. Certainly they cannot, if we don’t get rid of the Negroes whom we have armed and disciplined and who have fought with us, I believe, to the amount of 150,000 men. I believe it would be better to export them all…” - Abraham Lincoln https://archive.org/details/autobiographyper0192butl page 903


This comment was removed as ‘racist’. See the modlog https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=199626

Attempts at getting clarification:

Seeing no official appeal process I messaged the first mod on the list that had activity in the last couple days. Here is the message I sent @[email protected] on 07 Jul:


Hi,

this is about my ban from Political Memes on lemmy.world . I don’t see an official appeal process nor the mod who banned me so I am messaging you rather randomly. Sorry if I oveelooked something.

I am not sure how my comment was racist when Pugjesus is the one dismissing black voices with a “lol stop being melodramatic”. Fairly certain there is a misunderstanding which I hope to rectify.

Thanks

mathemachristian


after receiving no response, this is the message I sent to the next mod with some activity on the mod list @[email protected] on 17 Jul :


Hi,

this is about my ban from [email protected]. I don’t see an official appeal process nor the mod who banned me which is why I see no alternative to DM’ing you directly. Sorry if I overlooked something. I also messaged Rooki over a week ago but never got a reply.

I am not sure how my comment can be seen as racist. I’m hoping to clarify what surely is just a misunderstaning.

Thanks


They at least promptly replied 2.5h later with:


I haven’t taking any mod actions on your account but I will ask around.


My “Appreciate it” was the last communication between me and anyone on the mod team.

Why I care

I am hoping to at least get an explanation on how my comment could be read as racist, because to me this seems like a willful misunderstanding at best (I am quoting Lincoln, those are not my words or views, as should be obvious from the CW I applied to it). Especially with no mod actions taken against the person replying to me linking readsettlers.org with a dismissal of the author, who has been very active in black liberation (though themself not black, that was a mistake in my first message), as “melodramatic”.

  • @PugJesus
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    63 months ago

    Have you considered that it’s not the quote that was racist, but the source talking about how the white working class is actually at the heart of all the world’s problems?

    • mathemachristian[he]OP
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      3 months ago

      Racist against white people? I didn’t actually want to accuse someone of believing in anti-white racism, but if you say so…

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      … about how the white working class is actually at the heart of all the world’s problems?

      also thats clearly not what the book says but it talks about how the bourgeoisie enables and nourishes racism, although it critices the white working class for in turn letting themselves be enabled and serving their racist masters by carrying our their racist bidding, you know a dialectical view on the classes.

      • @PugJesus
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        53 months ago

        Racist against white people? I didn’t actually want to accuse someone of believing in anti-white racism, but if you say so…

        So your problem is that the mod didn’t remove it for “racial prejudice” instead of “racism”? Or is your claim here that racial prejudice against white people is impossible, rather than using a narrow definition of ‘racism’?

        • mathemachristian[he]OP
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          I didnt think that the book was the issue here, it’s not racially prejudiced nor racist. But if that’s the mods views then I guess it makes sense they would ban me for it.