• @Carrolade
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    -23 months ago

    I hope they realize that fighting the police in Chicago really accomplishes nothing but harm for the Palestinian people. There is no chance it rallies more support than it costs among working voters.

    Getting attacked for being peaceful is good. Attacking is bad.

      • @Carrolade
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        -43 months ago

        That is not a particularly common sentiment past a certain age, and past that age is where the majority of voters are. While they do do a lot of bullshit and have been heavily infiltrated by right-wing extremism, particularly with regards to training, there’s a nuance where that does not universally represent all the disparate offices of the country, which really run the whole gamut.

        There’s this thing called selection bias, where the news does not generally report positive things, but only negative. Greater experience forces you to come to terms with this more.

        • @return2ozmaOP
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          43 months ago

          Again. ACAB. The entire system is racist and broken.

          • @Carrolade
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            23 months ago

            That’s an opinion a person can hold, sure.

            But I’m talking about helping the Palestinian people, and whether fighting cops helps that, hurts it, or is neutral.

            It’s about convincing voters, not punching what you think are bad guys in the face. The world is not a comic book, it’s a messy place that adults have to have jobs in or they die.

            • @return2ozmaOP
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              23 months ago

              The police are there to protect the bourgeoisie. Don’t even get me started on the prison industrial complex.

              • @Carrolade
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                33 months ago

                I’m not trying to convince you that police are wonderful or that we don’t need economic and criminal justice reform.

                I’m talking about practical, immediate matters though. Palestinians are dying right fucking now, and you really think punching a cop helps that? Or are you so self-centered that you can’t separate your issues in your head and understand what living under representative government actually means for us in a world with suburban soccer moms?

                • @return2ozmaOP
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                  -13 months ago

                  We’ve been protesting for months. They’re not listening.

                  'A riot is the language of the unheard." - MLK Jr

                  • @Carrolade
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                    23 months ago

                    That’s because we don’t have a clear majority yet, even of the democratic party, much less the whole electorate. We need to change that, not think that beating people up will somehow magically address our problems.

                    Think past quotes and slogans to demographics and average American citizens and how they live, what they want, and what is important to them. They are who we need to convince more of before leadership can take the concerns more seriously.