An arms embargo in some form is literally the only leverage the US has that could change Netanyahu’s mind, at this stage. Personally, I don’t think Kamala has the guts for it.
But they can limit it to just missile defense and such.
That’s not a full weapon embargo, but it’s an embargo on the worst items and frankly if they do t get that shit from us, their only option is China, and China would know that and charge them out the ass for anything. Which means they get less than everything.
Shit is rarely black or white. But with Biden they had a blank check, anything they wanted and Biden went around Congress for an arm’s “sale” already. Which frankly is a straight up war crime and violates US and international law, but it looks like some people are above the law despite what Biden said.
In her very first foreign policy vote in January 2017, for instance, Harris sided with President Trump in criticizing the outgoing President Obama’s refusal to veto an otherwise-unanimous, very modest, and largely symbolic UN Security Council resolution on Israeli settlements. Among other things, that resolution reiterated previous Security Council calls for Israel to stop expanding its illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, which violate the Fourth Geneva Convention and a landmark ruling by the International Court of Justice.
There was an anonymous aide who said something, then National Security Advisor to the VP said they wouldn’t do a full embargo that would leave an opening for Iran to attack.
But they also said Biden wasn’t stepping aside for any reason right up until the second Biden stepped down.
That article I linked is a good read, there’s a lot of pressure from within the party for an embargo. And both Harris and Wall’s are open to discussions, and have already been having them.
They’re not perfect, but they’re open to a dialog. It’s a huge improvement from Biden.
They could still drastically limit what types of weapons get “sold” to Israel and what quantities.
Put it on Israel:
Save these for defense or use them for a genocide, but we’re not just giving you everything you ask for.
If Bibi uses them for genocide and leaves Israel open to an attack from an actual country with a functional government and military, that’s probably the fastest way to get Bibi out of power. There’s already been huge protests in Israel for months calling for him to step down. And he’s delaying an election he’s almost guaranteed to lose.
It just doesn’t take as much as you seem to think to end this.
Vice President Kamala Harris’s national security adviser said on Thursday that she did not support an arms embargo on Israel, laying out one of her first firm policy positions since becoming the Democratic nominee on how she would approach the war in Gaza.
The adviser, Phil Gordon, said on social media on Thursday morning that Ms. Harris would “always ensure Israel is able to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups.” He added: “She does not support an arms embargo on Israel. She will continue to work to protect civilians in Gaza and to uphold international humanitarian law.”
The article you linked has great language but effectively means absolutely nothing. Empty words are the same thing we’ve heard from Biden the last 10 months.
Harris is in an awkward position where even if she disagrees vehemently with the Biden administration’s policies, she can’t really do or say anything about it because she’s still a part of that administration. Undermining her boss right now would only cause a backlash from all directions that would be far more damaging than simply sitting on it until after the election.
A President Elect Harris will have far more leeway to steer policy on such a delicate issue than a Vice President Harris ever could.
Harris already said no weapons embargo on israel. There’s no reason to be optimistic.
Pretty sure that was one of Biden’s aides that said she wouldn’t?
But there’s a lot of room between the current situation and “full weapons embargo” for improvement
An arms embargo in some form is literally the only leverage the US has that could change Netanyahu’s mind, at this stage. Personally, I don’t think Kamala has the guts for it.
For a full on embargo?
Almost definitely not
But they can limit it to just missile defense and such.
That’s not a full weapon embargo, but it’s an embargo on the worst items and frankly if they do t get that shit from us, their only option is China, and China would know that and charge them out the ass for anything. Which means they get less than everything.
Shit is rarely black or white. But with Biden they had a blank check, anything they wanted and Biden went around Congress for an arm’s “sale” already. Which frankly is a straight up war crime and violates US and international law, but it looks like some people are above the law despite what Biden said.
No the top Kamala aide said it. No weapons embargo means there’s no chance of any embargo.
There’s a weird thing going on where any negative news about Kamala is said by an aide instead of Kamala.
Her track record is consistent with support for the Genocide as well. Especially this 2019 article explains a lot
I googled it
There was an anonymous aide who said something, then National Security Advisor to the VP said they wouldn’t do a full embargo that would leave an opening for Iran to attack.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/08/dnc-arms-embargo-uncommitted-pledge-petition-kamala-harris/
But they also said Biden wasn’t stepping aside for any reason right up until the second Biden stepped down.
That article I linked is a good read, there’s a lot of pressure from within the party for an embargo. And both Harris and Wall’s are open to discussions, and have already been having them.
They’re not perfect, but they’re open to a dialog. It’s a huge improvement from Biden.
They could still drastically limit what types of weapons get “sold” to Israel and what quantities.
Put it on Israel:
If Bibi uses them for genocide and leaves Israel open to an attack from an actual country with a functional government and military, that’s probably the fastest way to get Bibi out of power. There’s already been huge protests in Israel for months calling for him to step down. And he’s delaying an election he’s almost guaranteed to lose.
It just doesn’t take as much as you seem to think to end this.
The article you linked has great language but effectively means absolutely nothing. Empty words are the same thing we’ve heard from Biden the last 10 months.
Harris is in an awkward position where even if she disagrees vehemently with the Biden administration’s policies, she can’t really do or say anything about it because she’s still a part of that administration. Undermining her boss right now would only cause a backlash from all directions that would be far more damaging than simply sitting on it until after the election.
A President Elect Harris will have far more leeway to steer policy on such a delicate issue than a Vice President Harris ever could.