• LustyArgonian
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    245 months ago

    I will never use Teflon again. Even using it correctly will kill a bird in the same room. Canary in a coal mine. I won’t touch the stuff. Stainless steel or cast iron.

    • @[email protected]
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      5 months ago

      My uncle’s parrot he had for a really long time died because he put up some kind of new shades for his living room that off gassed something deadly to birds.

      He knew about not using Teflon but not about window shades, or uv resistant plastic products off gassing being hazardous. He was devastated. Some of the shit sold to us is genuinely toxic. It’s really messed up when you think about it.

      • LustyArgonian
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        85 months ago

        Yes, including in MDF, laminate, most finishes on wood, most plastics, most paints and perfumes. Cement and concrete. Tires. Car exhaust. And there’s a lot I’m missing.

      • LustyArgonian
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        95 months ago

        PTFE is still allowed and can kill birds from the fumes.

        • @prof_wafflez
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          55 months ago

          Hmm - I’ll have to research more on that. Thanks

        • @[email protected]
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          35 months ago

          PTFE fumes only happen if you leave the pan on the stove with nothing in it. Normal cooking activities don’t reach a high enough temp for it to decompose

          • LustyArgonian
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            35 months ago

            I’m just not going to risk it. That’s not a big enough margin of safety for me compared to something like cast iron.

      • @shazeal115
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        55 months ago

        Watch Dark Waters, the only reason PFOAs got outted was because the DuPont themselves did the reaseasch that showed if was toxic, then Robert Bilott basically dedicated his life to uncovering their coverup. The company then basically for all intents and purposes renamed PFOA so they cant be sued for selling it anymore. The F is the important part. So basically now someone would need to do a huge amount of research out of their own pocket to prove that PFTE was safe… “trust me bro” - DuPont probably

      • @zik
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        15 months ago

        They still create microplastics.

    • @Cheesus
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      65 months ago

      Get carbon steel as well. Similarity to cast iron but lighter and just as cheap

      • LustyArgonian
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        25 months ago

        Sure :) I like suggesting cast iron because it’s easy to get secondhand/refurbish