Pre-ordering video games used to mean securing your disc at a retailer before they sold out on launch night. Now it means paying full price (or more) for a p...
Honestly, if the idea of no trials don’t bother you, there are plenty more reminders why YOU shouldn’t preorder.
Thank you for the reminder. I will promptly pay attention to it, and yet, have 0 impact on the world as this issue is a big numbers problem and we’re the small numbers.
That’s a defeatist attitude. There are a lot more of us then you can fathom. If you’re going to make assumptions on data you don’t have, why not have hope?
Where? Here we have 1.2k potential users. The video does have 24k views. For big studios like Bethesda that’s a rounding error! Skyrim for example sold 3.4 million physical copies alone at launch. I wouldn’t be surprised if Starfield already has sold that many pre-orders.
I mean it’s good to have such a discussion, but there are 10’s of millions of people who regularely buy PC/console games. It would be silly to expect that such a huge amount of people could be reached easily by grassroot discussions of a few thousand people.
After all this whole pre-order discussion is by no means new. I’ve seen such for at least 5-10 years but in the end, pre-orders still happen on a gigantic scale.
You’re looking at just one community. Are we the only community to have ever had this discussion? Is it impossible for other people to discuss this same topic with different people, at different times, in different places? Do you have objective data surveying any significant sample sizes?
If not, then you’re just making assumptions. So why make worse assumptions instead of better?
And I don’t actually care about the results, I’m talking about the attitude on principle. I’m not insinuating that we need to reach everybody. I’m questioning the assumption that they’re reaching nobody.
Of course other communities are also talking about that. /r/PCMR for example certainly does. But that doesn’t change the fact that the people talking about it are very few and that they have little influence on the casual gamer in regards to their decision.
I mean look at how fucking hard it is for humanity to solve important issues where a lot more people are on board with. Compared to that, pre-order and the sorry state of gaming is utterly meaningless so of course a lot more people simply won’t care.
But hey go ahead, I wish you the best of luck. I mean this seriously. But you can be sure that I won’t bet any money on that side.
Thank you for the reminder. I will promptly pay attention to it, and yet, have 0 impact on the world as this issue is a big numbers problem and we’re the small numbers.
That’s a defeatist attitude. There are a lot more of us then you can fathom. If you’re going to make assumptions on data you don’t have, why not have hope?
Where? Here we have 1.2k potential users. The video does have 24k views. For big studios like Bethesda that’s a rounding error! Skyrim for example sold 3.4 million physical copies alone at launch. I wouldn’t be surprised if Starfield already has sold that many pre-orders.
I mean it’s good to have such a discussion, but there are 10’s of millions of people who regularely buy PC/console games. It would be silly to expect that such a huge amount of people could be reached easily by grassroot discussions of a few thousand people.
After all this whole pre-order discussion is by no means new. I’ve seen such for at least 5-10 years but in the end, pre-orders still happen on a gigantic scale.
You’re looking at just one community. Are we the only community to have ever had this discussion? Is it impossible for other people to discuss this same topic with different people, at different times, in different places? Do you have objective data surveying any significant sample sizes?
If not, then you’re just making assumptions. So why make worse assumptions instead of better?
And I don’t actually care about the results, I’m talking about the attitude on principle. I’m not insinuating that we need to reach everybody. I’m questioning the assumption that they’re reaching nobody.
Of course other communities are also talking about that. /r/PCMR for example certainly does. But that doesn’t change the fact that the people talking about it are very few and that they have little influence on the casual gamer in regards to their decision.
I mean look at how fucking hard it is for humanity to solve important issues where a lot more people are on board with. Compared to that, pre-order and the sorry state of gaming is utterly meaningless so of course a lot more people simply won’t care.
But hey go ahead, I wish you the best of luck. I mean this seriously. But you can be sure that I won’t bet any money on that side.
While following the advice of not pre-ordering games may not change or save the industry it can still save you a lot of money and time.