We asked everyone outside a car to be safe so that drivers can be dangerous

  • Ebby
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    123 months ago

    So do bikes. It’s just common sense safety for all when on the roads at dusk or night.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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      13 months ago

      Here in California, bike lights are optional. A good thing since motorists are more dangerous to us when they are aware of us.

      • Ebby
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        3 months ago

        Lights and reflectors are required at night. During the day, they are optional, but highly recommended.

        The second part of your statement is patently false; a visible, predictable bicyclist is safest.

        • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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          -113 months ago

          The second part of your statement is patently false; a visible, predictable bicyclist is safest.

          That has been entirely contrary to my personal experience of twenty years of bicycling. I can’t help but wonder if you’re trying to get bicyclists killed.

          • Ebby
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            3 months ago

            Oh knock off the drama. Like I’ve never ridden or own bikes. Advocating lights and safety equipment isn’t “trying to get bicyclists killed”. What backwards bizarro logic.

            News flash, cars aren’t responsible for your safety; you are. Being proactive is the best advice.

            But go ahead, you do you; wear that camo vest. Lmao.

            • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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              I’m not saying I’m not responsible for my safety. I’m saying motorists can’t be trusted with responding safely to a visible bicycle, and are consistently more predictable when they’re not confused by a brightly lit obstacle.

              At least this is the case in the Bay Area. Maybe it’s different in Paris or Amsterdam. It’s better where bicycles have their own paths or a reserved lanes that don’t conflict with street parking.

              It sounds like you trust motorists to share the road with you and yet argue they aren’t responsible for the safety of bicyclists. Regarding that, I agree with you. They are not responsible for my safety. I am.

              I’m looking for the patent falseness of my statement which you asserted without references, and not finding it. Perhaps you can elaborate?

            • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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              13 months ago

              The recklessness of my youth (which I will admit) is incidental to the antagonism between motorists and bicyclists in the US.