• @bassomitron
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    4 months ago

    I think you misunderstood what I meant. There’s a notable amount of people what try to deflect and say that the civil war was in fact not about slavery and point to all the discourse surrounding state rights/federal overreach. However true that may be, the entire reason that discourse even took place was because of slavery, so the civil war was definitely about slavery. I was simply stating that bringing up all the other information is unnecessary/counterproductive 99% of the time in casual conversation.

    • @givesomefucks
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      4 months ago

      and point to all the discourse surrounding state rights/federal overreach.

      And the correct response is that the South was the one wanting a strong federal government with the ability to force states to follow laws that weren’t laws in their own state, while the North was the one fighting for “states rights”

      You don’t fight misinformation with more misinformation.

      I was simply stating that bringing up all the other information is unnecessary/counterproductive 99% of the time in casual conversation.

      I disagree.

      I think when we’re staring down civil war 2.0, it’s important for people to understand deeper than a single word, because a single word doesn’t explain why the war happened.

      Distilling it down to just that one word just validates the misinformation from the South, hundreds of years later when no American has an excuse to not know what really happened.

      “Conservatives” are literally still trying to force others to do what they want while disquising it as “freedom” so obviously the details still matter and it’s worth the couple minutes (and usually downvotes) to get specific

      • @bassomitron
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        34 months ago

        You don’t fight misinformation with more misinformation.

        What misinformation? Please tell me how it wasn’t ultimately about slavery.

        I think when we’re staring down civil war 2.0, it’s important for people to understand deeper than a single word, because a single word doesn’t explain why the war happened.

        But again, slavery is exactly why the war happened. But if you wanted to get truly technical, the war was fought to preserve the Union. Preventing secession was the formal justification that North declared for going to war with the Confederacy.

        Regardless, my main point is that every time a “Confederate/Rebel pride” person talks about the civil war not being about slavery, they inevitably bring up the whole state rights vs federal power debate to try and detract from it ultimately being about slavery.