This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly
Edit: I’m convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.
This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly
Edit: I’m convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.
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That is a bit of an L take though
It’s the objective truth. Yes, the IDF could probably do more to protect civilians but at the absolute worst what they’re doing is comparable to the conduct of the Western Allies against Germany in WW2.
Israel dropping unguided bombs from 10k feet from prop airplanes is certainly an “entertaining” thought but so far removed from the reality of precision guided missiles hitting hospitals and snipers shooting unarmed civilians and journalists in the back that it loops back around to being funny in a very morbid way.
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If you mean that Kaboom guy, then lol
Dude believes that the 40 decapitated babies lie is the truth because IDF said so
Genocide denialism is probably one of the least objectionable reasons to get banned from a community.
It’s genocide vs genocide, really.
Yeah. Unfortunately. All we can do is voice opposition to whichever one is achieving its goals at any given moment - Hamas in the immediate aftermath of October 7th, and Israel now.
Maybe someday they’ll sit the fuck down and figure out that this conflict can’t continue forever. Well, Hamas and Bibi never will, but whatever representatives of the Palestinian and Israeli people emerge from the other side of this phase of our everlasting Israel-Palestine conflict.
Or you can oppose both.
Well, yes, but the one most ‘in swing’ at any given time takes precedence in terms of attention given.
The idea that there’s a good guy and a bad guy when it comes to war is stupid.
… okay?
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The fault is on both of them, really. Israel had plenty of warnings from Jordan, Egypt, the US, the EU and their own security agency about an attack in October.
Of course, there is always an attack, and Israel is also not allowed to stop an attack before it happens, instead only after it happens.
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Well they were actually attacked from more than just Hamas, but it is Hamas that perpetrated the massacres. It doesn’t help that Hamas took hostages. If there were no hostage-taking, none of this would be as messy as it is.
In my personal armchair opinion, I think Israel should’ve waited before immediately going for the hostages to get some international support. But then again, that’s giving Hamas power.
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Truly barbaric.
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Yeah, that’s what Israel is doing
I don’t know what else you get from Israel’s actions and stated concerns. In a year, they’ve killed a greater percentage of Gazans than Coalition forces killed Iraqis in all ~10 years of the Iraq War. And Coalition forces in Iraq were (rightfully) accused of being metaphorically trigger-happy.
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So, what would you accept as a credible source for Israeli genocide, theoretically?
I can’t speak for them, but a general consensus among Western governments.
What’s a consensus, in this case? Supermajority? Plurality?
Majority. As long as they can present convincing evidence (i.e. evidence that doesn’t rely on trusting the word of Hamas and/or their friends in Doha and Tehran).
Edit: I’ll also say that I trust some Western governments more than others. I’ll take the word of the current German government over that of the current Italian one, for example.
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Theoretically speaking, what sources would you accept as authoritative on the matter of an ongoing genocide?
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By Israel’s own admission they kill two civilians for every Hamas soldier.
Israeli soldiers film themselves committing war crimes and dancing on the graves of Palestinian civilians they’ve killed.
What more do you want?
Please don’t use Al Jazeera, they are owned by the Qatari government, which is the same government that actively holds Hamas leadership. They are extraordinarily biased and not to be taken seriously.
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Did you really just “fake news” the UN? LOL!
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As far as I’m concerned, it’s genocide vs genocide, as it has been since ancient history.
Saying, there is no genocide in Gaza in your opinion, or making an assertion about the subject? There’s a big difference between the two.
Edit: Ah, yeah. That explains a lot.
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From your source. 15 out of 17 judges agreed to tell Israel to stop committing acts that “[fall] within the provisions of the (Genocide) Convention.” You realize that phrasing is the diplomatic way of saying “stop committing genocide,” right?
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Are you sure you’re up to date on the war? Because this is not as true as one would hope.
Thank you! Reading lemmy, you’d think the IDF was Hamas or something.
No, the IDF is much worse.
Are you honestly saying that the IDF is worse than Hamas?
Yup, by not committing a genocide and reclaiming their homeland, they’re much worse than the invaders who already committed one.
(Israel is the ancestoral homeland of the Jews, Muslims committed a genocide when they conquered the area)
Quick question - if Native Americans killed 1 out of every 50 US citizens in an attempt to drive them off of Native ancestral land, would this be:
A. Ethnic cleansing
OR
B. Not ethnic cleansing
?
Who was there first? The Indians or the Whites?
Native Americans.
Great, so we agree. White people committed a genocide against the Indians when they conquered the Americas, just like Muslims committed a genocide against the Jews when they conquered the Middle East.
Accepting that premise for the sake of the argument, since the history of the region’s disruption of the Jewish population predates Islam, so does that genocide justify another genocide some hundreds of years later?
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