This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly

Edit: I’m convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.

  • @PugJesusM
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    233 months ago

    Genocide denialism is probably one of the least objectionable reasons to get banned from a community.

      • @PugJesusM
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        13 months ago

        Yeah. Unfortunately. All we can do is voice opposition to whichever one is achieving its goals at any given moment - Hamas in the immediate aftermath of October 7th, and Israel now.

        Maybe someday they’ll sit the fuck down and figure out that this conflict can’t continue forever. Well, Hamas and Bibi never will, but whatever representatives of the Palestinian and Israeli people emerge from the other side of this phase of our everlasting Israel-Palestine conflict.

        • @[email protected]M
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          23 months ago

          The fault is on both of them, really. Israel had plenty of warnings from Jordan, Egypt, the US, the EU and their own security agency about an attack in October.

          Of course, there is always an attack, and Israel is also not allowed to stop an attack before it happens, instead only after it happens.

            • @[email protected]M
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              03 months ago

              Well they were actually attacked from more than just Hamas, but it is Hamas that perpetrated the massacres. It doesn’t help that Hamas took hostages. If there were no hostage-taking, none of this would be as messy as it is.

              In my personal armchair opinion, I think Israel should’ve waited before immediately going for the hostages to get some international support. But then again, that’s giving Hamas power.

      • @PugJesusM
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        113 months ago

        A genocide isn’t waging war, a genocide is actively hunting civilians and making life impossible.

        Yeah, that’s what Israel is doing

        I don’t know what else you get from Israel’s actions and stated concerns. In a year, they’ve killed a greater percentage of Gazans than Coalition forces killed Iraqis in all ~10 years of the Iraq War. And Coalition forces in Iraq were (rightfully) accused of being metaphorically trigger-happy.

            • @[email protected]M
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              53 months ago

              Please don’t use Al Jazeera, they are owned by the Qatari government, which is the same government that actively holds Hamas leadership. They are extraordinarily biased and not to be taken seriously.

          • @PugJesusM
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            53 months ago

            So, what would you accept as a credible source for Israeli genocide, theoretically?

              • @PugJesusM
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                43 months ago

                What’s a consensus, in this case? Supermajority? Plurality?

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                  Majority. As long as they can present convincing evidence (i.e. evidence that doesn’t rely on trusting the word of Hamas and/or their friends in Doha and Tehran).

                  Edit: I’ll also say that I trust some Western governments more than others. I’ll take the word of the current German government over that of the current Italian one, for example.

                  • @PugJesusM
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                    23 months ago

                    Understanding that any government declaration that Israel is committing genocide would necessarily require politically hazardous action in accompaniment, do you require that the majority of Western governments declare Israel is committing genocide, or only that a significant and credible portion of the legal and foreign policy institutions of Western governments declare as much?

              • @PugJesusM
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                13 months ago

                As mentioned above, there is no genocide, and that’s why no credible source is speaking about a genocide.

                Theoretically speaking, what sources would you accept as authoritative on the matter of an ongoing genocide?

                  • @PugJesusM
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                    33 months ago

                    There is no credible authority body that calles or doesn’t call something genocide, genocide has a very clear definition and genocide is defined according to that definition,

                    Then why say

                    and that’s why no credible source is speaking about a genocide.

                    as an objection?

                    You’re all over the place.

          • @Bakersfield
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            -23 months ago

            UN isn’t a credible source

            Did you really just “fake news” the UN? LOL!

      • @[email protected]M
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        13 months ago

        As far as I’m concerned, it’s genocide vs genocide, as it has been since ancient history.