• @samus12345
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    2421 days ago

    Any true “centrist” GOP person would have stayed away from Trump 8 years ago.

    • @SkyezOpen
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      2021 days ago

      In America people who identify themselves as “centrist” usually have no strong opinions on anything. They might also be what we might call a traditional republican suddenly realizing they’re surrounded by fascists.

          • @samus12345
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            1321 days ago

            No, Reagan was evil, not neutral.

              • @[email protected]
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                320 days ago

                But do you think he had no strong feelings one way or the other? He certainly put forth the image of him wanting the best for everyone but his hands were pretty firmly in the controls of most of his worst policy decisions.

                I’d argue Bush, Jr. is a better example of a centrist with no strong opinions on anything (and, thus, enabling those around him to do truly awful things).

      • @pingveno
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        220 days ago

        Yes but also no. There are many people who don’t have strong political opinions. Sometimes they’re misidentified as centrists. But there are people who have strongly held political positions that fall in the center of the political spectrum. Then, of course, there is center-left and center-right. They’re still politically engaged, but don’t have much patience for the policy proposals put forward by the far left and far right.

        • @[email protected]
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          220 days ago

          Honestly, that sounds like both sides foolishness with extra steps. How can you be politically engaged and still think there’s a middle ground between “kill all minorities” and “don’t do that”?

          • @pingveno
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            20 days ago

            That’s an obvious strawman argument. How about a spectrum between high taxes, generous social safety net and low taxes, skimpy social safety net? There are people with beliefs all along that spectrum. Of course, then there are people who want low taxes and a generous social safety net, but that’s another matter.

            • @SkyezOpen
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              220 days ago

              I mean that literally describes “socially liberal fiscally conservative” morons. No tax! Only benefit!

              • @pingveno
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                120 days ago

                That’s the opposite of (genuine) fiscally conservatism, since it implies large fiscal deficits. Not that some fiscal deficits are inherently bad, they are widely misunderstood when used in a limited way.

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        20 days ago

        I think centrist means “I am not a very thoughtful person, and I avoid any and all conflict even if avoiding the conflict hurts those around me more than dealing with the conflict directly would. If people I care about are affected by conflict I will blame the weaker of the two sides and avoid conflict further for short term gains.”