OK, so let’s pretend that Hamas using human sheilds necessitates the killing of (at least, but probably more than) 40,000 people. I think that in most conflicts, when innocent hostages are. taken, the normal response isn’t to indiscriminately kill the hostages, but let’s ignore that for now.

How does that Hamas using human shields make it necessary for Palestinians in Gaza to live without clean drinking water for a decade before October 7th? How do human shields make it necessary to torture (tortures which include beating, rape, and the use of restraints so tight they havd led to amputations) Palestinians in prison camps? How does it justify Israeli settlers seizing homes in the West Bank, a territory that isn’t even controlled by Hamas? Because it doesn’t really seem like, “Hamas is hiding among civilians, so it’s hard to target them without hitting civilian targets,” can possibly justify any of those things.

HuMaN sHiElDs

we literally have videos of IDF soldiers using Palestinians as human shields. There is no such proof for Hamas doing the same, and certainly not with tens of thousands of people simultaneously.

Even Israel has ceased using that lousy excuse.

It’s actually the IDF that uses Palestinians as human shields and routinely kidnaps kids and tortures them. WHICH THEY DO.

The use of Palestinians as human shields by Israeli Defense Forces has been documented by human rights organizations including Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem and Amnesty International.[6][7][8] According to B’Tselem, IDF soldiers put Palestinian civilians in front of them or otherwise putting civilians in the line of fire,[9] and forcing Palestinians to remove suspicious objects (possible explosives).[9] IDF soldiers also force Palestinian civilians to walk through suspected booby-trapped buildings. Israel also formerly employed the “neighbor procedure” in which Palestinian civilians were forced to attempt to persuade wanted individuals to surrender themselves to the IDF.[10] The latter practice was defended by the Israeli defense ministry, but prohibited in 2005 by the Israeli Supreme Court,[11] though there have been accusations of its employment even after the ruling.[12][13] During the 2009 invasion of Gaza, IDF reportedly used Palestinian families (both adult and children) as human shields.[14][15]

Bro links an unrelated video of drone footage before 7/10 and draws conclusions about the water in Gaza. This is beyond outrageous.

Refusing to acknowledge the Israeli settler colonialism, genocide and apartheid OR justifying it with the excuse of Israeli self defence is exactly how most German citizens dealt with the concentration camps. The situation is far too serious and tragic to deal with petty trolls like you, but I will answer for anyone else seeing this.

The amnesty international substantiates in its reports that the human shields claim is a myth and that it is proven it is Israel in fact that continuously commits this war crime:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/015/2009/en/

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/07/israelgaza-conflict-questions-and-answers/

(Ctrl+f “human shields” to find it in the reports)

Here’s the Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International reports on how the Israel apartheid works, the constitutional discrimination against Palestinians and the numerous laws that oppress and restrict rights of the Palestinians living in Israel:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

Even Israelis themselves admit it. Here’s their biggest human rights organisation admitting it:

https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid

Now here’s why we say Israel built the biggest open air prison according to the Humans Rights Watch:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-prison-15

And here’s how Israel systematically destroys Gaza’s crops, public infrastructure, wells, electricity and water facilities. In a word, how Israel systematically threatens with extinction 2 million people trapped in a tiny strip:

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/incursion-israeli-bulldozers-strip-destroys-crops

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2018-07-09/ty-article/.premium/farm-warfare-how-israel-uses-chemicals-to-kill-crops-in-gaza/0000017f-e01e-d804-ad7f-f1fef7830000

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israeli-forces-destroy-wells-public-infrastructure

https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/stories/after-the-bombing-gaza-struggles-to-restart-power-water-hospitals-and-economy/

That’s how and why they don’t have clean water.

Everything I’ve linked is before 7/10 btw. It’s all a coordinated systematic attempt by Israel to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians waaay before any excuse for any hostage.

Nazi Germany’s genocide might have been different, but their excuses certainly weren’t.

So you first denied its happening, and now you agree its happening but youre saying its ok. Fucking yikes

Not to go too deep into philosophy 101… you’re misattributing the value judgement of their abhorrent actions with their existence.

Their right to exist is fundamental and all humans share it equally. The consequences for their actions are also something that should be consistent and shared equally. In a impossible perfect world anyway.

Also… fuck yeah ACAB

The Jerusalem Post

Radical Islamic Terrorists

If you prefer, this peer-reviewed Lancet study used death tolls from other conflicts to estimate that the “hamas health ministry” has wildly undercounted the dead (owing to their policy of only counting someone as dead when a body has been identified), and placed the estimated death toll above 85,000 as of August 6th.