The move is a show that the U.S. does hold power over Israel’s actions — but chooses not to act in crucial ways.
Archived version: https://archive.ph/lfKmn
The move is a show that the U.S. does hold power over Israel’s actions — but chooses not to act in crucial ways.
Archived version: https://archive.ph/lfKmn
That would be grossly unpopular with the US public, even among progressives. It would quite possibly result in an attempt at impeaching the president.
Whether we like it or not, our older generations like Israel. They remember the pre-Netanyahu days, when Israel was dismantling its own West Bank settlements, and sometimes earlier when it was being warred on by all its neighbors. In our democratic society their opinions need to be considered.
Theoretically, yes though, we could. We also bombed ISIS to save the Yazidis.
Yes and these Americans appear to be fine isrsel committing genocide…
So yes genocide will continue and US will continue to enable it.
They also operate under an old, outdated definition of the word genocide, where it used to mean the attempted killing of all of a certain group, instead of simply erasing their way of life. This is one of the reasons I prefer ethnic cleansing, as the definition of that has not changed in recent history, and it’s equally bad.
Overall I am hoping Harris hardens her stance on Netanyahu once she is past the election. But yes, you might be right.
How is Israel not attempting to kill all of Gaza residents. They already killed about 2-3% in under one year. Rest are in near starvation conditions, these people are placed into open air camps …
How is this different from what Germany did?
The only difference I see, there is no forced labour.
Genuine question…
Germany was gassing them all en masse, an industrial level of extermination delivered with unargued intent. Even then, many people were reluctant to believe it at the time, until evidence was uncovered after the camps were captured and investigated. Even with that evidence we still have deniers.
Israel is operating a step below that. They do allow some food aid in, just not in sufficient quantities to alleviate the starvation. They’re keeping them on the brink, but not finishing it, just toe-ing that line. The killing could be completed quickly if they decided to. This hazier state of affairs reinforces people’s inclinations to disbelieve in atrocities, unfortunately.
A lot of mental gymsnastics in there… I guess until israelis get gas chambers, nothing to see here lol
We really do deserve the regime we got, sad Gaza residents have to die for it.
Yea. The world is full of mental gymnastics unfortunately. Nothing is simple when people’s perceptions are the topic.
Global affairs make the problem even worse, since ethics are not fundamental to international affairs. In the eyes of many leaders, population is a statistic, a resource to be utilized just like how much money or oil or how many tanks and jets you have. Democracy tries to remedy this somewhat by making leaders vulnerable to being voted out, but cannot do so completely.
so never again except it is “our” guys doing the genocide so few more times 🤡
Well, not if we have anything to say about it. I may often argue for a more nuanced, accurate understanding of things, but I am very glad to see the political pressure the uncommitted movement and peace protestors consistently apply to our government. We can potentially fix this if we play our cards right.
The US does not need Israel, not anymore. We just need to strengthen and enforce our positions on human rights violations. I do remain hopeful that Harris will be more open to stronger measures than Biden was, and its our job to maintain that pressure on her.
I do think its important to do so accurately, though, and avoid spreading misinformed propaganda just because it says anti-Israeli things, which is pretty common online unfortunately. There are plenty of real and accurate arguments we can use to criticize Israeli actions and apply pressure to elected officials, we don’t need any bullshit to be right or effective.
For now, though, I do know she has to beat Trump. And that means she has to convince McDonalds-eating, football-watching Americans that she isn’t pro-hamas, which is what Trump will try to say. So I don’t expect much progressive rhetoric out of her for the next few months.