• @Wade
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    Yeah I suppose they would need another eye for each additional dimension they see, which still justifies the reaction in the comic

    • @Sterile_Technique
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      717 days ago

      Not really, they’d just need to exist in a dimension above ours. We can readily observe the lower three dimensions of length, width and depth because we exist in the one above that - duration. We can’t observe time except by passing through it point by point. A being capable of observing actual timelines would have to do so from a vantage point above them.

      The extra eyes and wings are just them being a fucking showoff.

      • Sneezycat
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        You need one eye to see 2D. You need two eyes to see 3D. Presumably, you need 3+ eyes to see in 4D. Don’t conflate spatial dimensions with the temporal one, it’s oranges and apples.

        • @prime_number_314159
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          Most of the “3D” we see is made up by our brains. For evidence of this, look at a photograph, and look at how far away things are.

          Having eyes spaced apart does help us to tell the distance to things that are close to us, but that is only useful for a short distance. Our brains also track the parallax and occlusion of numerous objects, which helps over longer distances, but works just fine with 1 eye.

          I think there are two ways eyes could work in higher spacial dimensions, you could either have an n dimensional eye, which percieves an n-1 dimensional image, and then an understanding of “distance” is used to fill in the remaining information, or (which may just be my own 3D-ness showing) you could have several 3D eyes in different directions, each percieving different 2D images, with enough overlap to fully see the n-dimensional space. That would take n-1 eyes to properly see.

        • @[email protected]
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          You can see depth with a single eye, you just need to move your eye

          Two eyes in animals are used either to get extra view angle (in a cow, for instance) or to give instant depth information (in a human or tiger for example) or for both (in dragonflies)

          • Sneezycat
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            That’s still using a temporal dimension to your advantage :P (cause without time you can’t move).

        • @AdrianTheFrog
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          215 days ago

          You can get depth information from parallax, which can come from either capturing multiple moments or using multiple viewpoints. IDK if I would call this seeing in 3D, as you can still only see 2d surfaces, just with an additional data point of depth (Think of it like an array of data, with one eye, you get res^2 * (r+g+b) data points, with two, you get res^2 * (r+g+b+r+g+b+d) instead of actual 3D which would be res^3 * (r+g+b)). Having 3 eyes just means you can estimate depth more accurately. Of course, in real animals with many eyes the eyes serve different purposes, such as having a different fov, resolution, color perception, etc.

          • Sneezycat
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            115 days ago

            So what you’re saying is we need 4D eyes to see 3D? Ahh, Kos… or some say, Kosm…

      • Angry_Autist (he/him)
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        Less of a showoff and more because it’s not easy to control what a lower dimesional slice will look like, the apple through the 2d plane for example.

        In their own dimension they probably look normal but peeking into ours fractures their dimensional shadow like a kaleidoscope.

        That’s why elder gods break people’s brains, and they’re only described in abstractions. We’re looking on the 3 dimensional shadow of higher dimensional beings

        • @AdrianTheFrog
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          115 days ago

          The thing is, if the higher dimensions worked the same as the lower ones except for the fact we can’t see them, you could theoretically bounce off of the 3 dimensional shadow to travel through the other dimensions, like in 4d golf

    • @[email protected]
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      416 days ago

      Or it’s like with tails in asia: the more tails, the more cat/fox/….

      The more wings and eyes, the more angel.

    • DosDude👾
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      So you’re saying we see 2 dimensions? Interesting. I’m going to try to walk around a tunnel now.

      • @humorlessrepost
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        “Another eye for each additional dimension”, not “an eye for each dimension”.

        Eyes = dimensions - 1

        (For positive numbers of eyes)

        • @[email protected]
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          316 days ago

          What would a negative number of eyes look like?

          Poorly, I assume, but I do mean appearance-wise.

          • @[email protected]
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            116 days ago

            Lol okay you got me. You can see the front and the back of the car.

            …now, where is the bottom of the car in this 2D picture lol

            • @[email protected]
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              115 days ago

              I think on the level of physics, there might be enough information in the photo to describe what’s under the car actually, but I don’t know enough about photons or physics lol. Bless the day

              • @[email protected]
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                115 days ago

                What…? you literally cannot see the bottom of the car. It’s a 3d object. You cannot see all sides of the 3d object. You can only see up down left and right.

                • @[email protected]
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                  115 days ago

                  Our eyes can also see forwards and backwards so we can perceive 3d I believe, and then 4 d one present moment at a time.

                  But, I’m saying it is possible even with something like sonar to make a map of a thing that is on the other side of something else. That’s sound waves but we know that the light information is there to make a map similarly using light, and if we could see that information in real life, we might be able to perceive from the photons captured in this image to have an understanding of what’s under the car

                  • @[email protected]
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                    115 days ago

                    Yea see what you just said doesn’t make sense. Our eyes have depth perception based on the shadows of the 2d images shown… We don’t have some kind of magical infrared sighting.