• @[email protected]
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    64 months ago

    How does catching, raising, or hunting meat compare to planting or gathering their own plant-based food?

    as the deer spends all year gathering nutrients, and they can spend one morning gathering the deer, it seems to me it’s highly effective.

    • @[email protected]
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      44 months ago

      Most vegans would allow an exception for certain lifestyles. People hunting for their homestead aren’t going to cause a global issue like is currently happening.

      Ideally we wouldnt hunt at all but thats like some sort of futuristic goal. Noones going to tell you to starve your family to appease veganism, thats not the point.

      The point is to reduce suffering and abuse wherever possible. Sometimes its not possible.

      • @[email protected]
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        34 months ago

        People hunting for their homestead aren’t going to cause a global issue like is currently happening.

        that’s not what the vegan society says about animal exploitation.

    • archomrade [he/him]
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      04 months ago

      Lol, ok so you’re including labor cost?

      A couple years of a dear ‘gathering nutrients’, vs a summer of cultivating a garden and harvesting? Or do I need to include the energy expenditure (energy ingested by the dear minus energy lost to biological processes, vs solar energy collected minus energy expended on building plant mass and energy expended in harvest)?

      I was really just pointing out the absurdity of your complaint about the study but you’re making this into a fun little digression.

        • archomrade [he/him]
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          -24 months ago

          Costs nothing to harvest a plant, too.

          Costs a great deal to own a gun and ammunition, a truck to haul, tools and labor to clean and butcher, and more to store and prepare it. To speak nothing of the labor of the dear to produce the biomass.

          Lol we can keep going with this if you want, it’s pretty fun.

          • @[email protected]
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            54 months ago

            Costs nothing to harvest a plant, too.

            foraging for plants is a lot less calorie efficient than hunting or fishing.

            • archomrade [he/him]
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              14 months ago

              Lmao not if you’re hunting with spears!

              Or are we allowed to use tools in this hypothetical digression?

              • @[email protected]
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                44 months ago

                you’re the one obsessed with defending a paper whose scope was too limited to cover any of these scenarios so do what you want i guess

                • archomrade [he/him]
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                  -14 months ago

                  You’re the one obsessed with dismissing the paper based on qualifiers beyond the scope of the research, so you do you I guess.