• RubberDuck
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    314 days ago

    That is what we have in the Netherlands. No jury trial but for the more serious stuff a panel of 3 judges.

    • billwashere
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      214 days ago

      Of course its better in the Netherlands :)

      Seriously though its like you Dutch fuckers looked at everyone else and tried to out do them, and succeeded.

      All joking aside, I am really jealous. It does really seem like you have figured out what society should be in it’s final form. Or at least as close to what it should be as possible. I doubt it’s perfect, but it seems a lot better than us yanks in a lot of respects.

      • RubberDuck
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        414 days ago

        We have our problems. Mostly stemming from the fact it’s really really crowded and everything competes over a small piece of land. Which means that a lot of issues that occur by overuse of something or another manifests decades before it happens elsewhere.

        Issues with groundwater pollution by over fertilizing by farmers. We dealt with that shit in the 80s Germany and other eu countries now seeing these issues. Plenty more of these examples.

        The right wing populists use that as an excuse… “see noone else has these issues but us” … Yeah mother F- it’s because we’re ahead of the curve. We’re the early adopters of a lot of these problems because of how intensive we use our country.

        On the other hand… this leads to some awesome developments as well.

        • billwashere
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          214 days ago

          Places like here in the US do often avoid a lot of these issues because we do have a lot of space but god damn we sure try to speed run making poor decisions and wasting resources left and right. See things like fracking and giant SUVs.

          Can you imagine if you took a people and government like the Netherlands and set it up with the land and resources of the US minus all the greedy as fuck billionaires trying to destroy everything and everyone chasing the almighty dollar. A man can dream…