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  • @PugJesusM
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    2813 days ago

    Your first sentence is not wrong; as I understand Marx’s writing. Essentially it is not possible to go from agrarianism straight to communism without first building an industrial society. That’s how Russia / USSR, China etc don’t “technically” count.

    Don’t worry, Lenin et co said you could do it if you believed extra super hard and gave all the power to a small clique of intellectuals. Lenin, like Jesus and the Gospels, takes precedence over prior teachings.

    • @[email protected]
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      1913 days ago

      That’s a good analogy. The mental gymnastics needed to be Marxist-Leninist is akin to believing both the old and new testaments are - essentially - about the same guy. I’m particularly thinking about New Economic Policy existing in a communist state. Wild.

      • @PugJesusM
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        [Overthrows the SRs for daring to say capitalism must come first to industrialize Russia]

        [Implements capitalism to industrialize Russia]

        • @[email protected]
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          712 days ago

          It’s like how the Saudi activists who called for women to be allowed to drive remained in prison after it was legalised; it’s not about the policy itself, it’s about defying the ruler.

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          513 days ago

          For a minute I thought SRs was a speech-to-text mistake for “Tsars” and was super confused - but then it all made sense. Been a long time since I’ve talked about this stuff.

          • @AngryCommieKender
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            It’s not a STT mistake of the word Tsar? What is it?

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              612 days ago

              Socialist Revolutionary Party. Two capital letters and one lower case is how it’s written. Go figure. They were in the mix of Russian politics in that era.