I mean, I understand what you’re saying and it is true here on lemmy, but it is absolutely not the case that you don’t have to self-censor on the internet. I mean, you can choose to not to, but some systems will just never show your contribution to the conversation to anyone (ex. tiktok, Facebook, YouTube, etc). So people practice self-censorship to engage with those platforms and then it becomes a part of their online vocabulary.
So, you don’t need to self-censor here on lemmy, but you also shouldn’t give anyone flak for doing so.
No I think their point stands. There are plenty of words to choose from, you simply don’t need to say shit. Like it is quite literally that simple, use the word or don’t.
Exactly. I choose to not swear, so I use different vocabulary. If I do choose to swear, I’ll swear. I personally find that not swearing regularly gives a lot more weight to when I do swear.
Yeah, but the person is speaking to you using their vocabulary that they use day-to-day. Sure, they could pick whatever other words they want to, but doing so would fall outside of their usual vocabulary and, therefore, takes more effort than just “replace the part of this word I normally use that’s blocked by censor”. You can tie yourself into knots trying to avoid censored words and also this new requirement of only using a word by using that word.
The point, as I see it, of “don’t use the word if you’re not going to use the word” is “don’t inconvenience me with your language, inconvenience yourself in order to not inconvenience me.” Sounds like a path to everyone second guessing everything they say in order to accommodate whatever desire other people wish to interject on your choice of words. Which, doesn’t sound very live más to me. Very un-taco bell of you (I have no idea what happened in that last part of my statement)
Edit: easiest way to say it: you clearly knew what word they meant so why are you making a stink about it not matching exactly to that word?
You clearly knowing what they meant means the entire point of the censorship is lost. So at that point it’s completely unnecessary. If I can tell what you meant the censorship is just pandering to pedantic people who think swear words are uncouth.
Just use the damn word or choose a different one. If you’re that worried about censorship you’ve solved both problems by never even letting them arise in the first place.
thanks. no hard feelings. i am big on my rules. i just recently learned to say no. maybe i am taking it far to seriously. i have been manipulated all my life, you know, the people blocking thing is like the last 3 years.
thanks for liking me. makes me feel ok, I appreciate that gesture, you are a cool dude, i offer a peace treaty. (figure of speech)
thanks, you get it. effort or inconvienience dont’ interest me, i am autistic for a reason. i just do what feels right by me. i don’t care about censorship. for me, its like using a bad word while trying to be polite, but still wantig to use the word.
but i guess thats far to sophisticated for most people in here. they are bootlickers, so the first thing they think is censorship.-
I mean, I understand what you’re saying and it is true here on lemmy, but it is absolutely not the case that you don’t have to self-censor on the internet. I mean, you can choose to not to, but some systems will just never show your contribution to the conversation to anyone (ex. tiktok, Facebook, YouTube, etc). So people practice self-censorship to engage with those platforms and then it becomes a part of their online vocabulary.
So, you don’t need to self-censor here on lemmy, but you also shouldn’t give anyone flak for doing so.
Umm, ffs, if I used that right.
No I think their point stands. There are plenty of words to choose from, you simply don’t need to say shit. Like it is quite literally that simple, use the word or don’t.
Exactly. I choose to not swear, so I use different vocabulary. If I do choose to swear, I’ll swear. I personally find that not swearing regularly gives a lot more weight to when I do swear.
Not really because not everyone knows your swearing habits when reading the odd comment from you on the Internet. In real life sure that makes sense.
Yeah, and that’s probably why I seem to see more swearing online than in person.
Yeah, but the person is speaking to you using their vocabulary that they use day-to-day. Sure, they could pick whatever other words they want to, but doing so would fall outside of their usual vocabulary and, therefore, takes more effort than just “replace the part of this word I normally use that’s blocked by censor”. You can tie yourself into knots trying to avoid censored words and also this new requirement of only using a word by using that word.
The point, as I see it, of “don’t use the word if you’re not going to use the word” is “don’t inconvenience me with your language, inconvenience yourself in order to not inconvenience me.” Sounds like a path to everyone second guessing everything they say in order to accommodate whatever desire other people wish to interject on your choice of words. Which, doesn’t sound very live más to me. Very un-taco bell of you (I have no idea what happened in that last part of my statement)
Edit: easiest way to say it: you clearly knew what word they meant so why are you making a stink about it not matching exactly to that word?
You clearly knowing what they meant means the entire point of the censorship is lost. So at that point it’s completely unnecessary. If I can tell what you meant the censorship is just pandering to pedantic people who think swear words are uncouth.
Just use the damn word or choose a different one. If you’re that worried about censorship you’ve solved both problems by never even letting them arise in the first place.
no, i won’t do what you tell me. for you, it’s censorshi*p. for me, it’s me. and i am all i got. so i am keeping that.
And we’re free to call you out on it being stupid lol
I will die to defend your right to call me out as stupid.
Y’know this started out as me being petty but you’ve made me start to like your style.
Not the censorship thing but the rest of you seems chill.
thanks. no hard feelings. i am big on my rules. i just recently learned to say no. maybe i am taking it far to seriously. i have been manipulated all my life, you know, the people blocking thing is like the last 3 years.
thanks for liking me. makes me feel ok, I appreciate that gesture, you are a cool dude, i offer a peace treaty. (figure of speech)
thanks, you get it. effort or inconvienience dont’ interest me, i am autistic for a reason. i just do what feels right by me. i don’t care about censorship. for me, its like using a bad word while trying to be polite, but still wantig to use the word.
but i guess thats far to sophisticated for most people in here. they are bootlickers, so the first thing they think is censorship.-
It’s not sophisticated it’s just stupid 😂
thats just, like, your opinion man.
i am free to express my self like i want to. i will type *hit all I want.
And we’re free to call you out on it being stupid and unnecessary.
again and again and again. it’s a free country, thats what i keep saying.
‘Express yourself’ through censorship. Brilliant stuff, folks.
you really got me good, i see the error of my ways. no i don’t, false alarm, well, *hit.