• @Shard
      link
      English
      282 months ago

      They’ve always been “that acquaintance”.

      You only know each other for mutual benefit or a mutual friend, but when that’s gone, there becomes literally no reason to hang out any more.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      21
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Considering Russia’s past performance in naval warfare in the Pacific, we’re probably better off without them.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
      link
      English
      142 months ago

      Getting the old gang back together!

      Germany, Japan, and Italy?

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        262 months ago

        I don’t mean to pick on you specifically with this comment, but good lord people, there’s more to history than WW2. Anytime anyone tries to make a historical reference to current events it’s awkwardly shoehorned into a WW2 framework. It drives me crazy. Anyway, sorry for the rant there. No, it’s an older gang. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramble_for_China

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
          link
          English
          -162 months ago

          Ah, you’re talking about colonialism. You’re going to have a hard time finding anti-colonialists on Lemmy, unfortunately.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            142 months ago

            Nah, it was just a throwaway joke, the west obviously doesn’t intend to colonize China this time. What they did in the 19th century was egregious, though, and should be much more common knowledge than it is.

            • @UnderpantsWeevil
              link
              English
              -42 months ago

              the west obviously doesn’t intend to colonize China this time

              The Chinese state is a much harder nut to crack under the CCP than it was a century and a half ago under the Qing Dynasty. But there are plenty of John Bolton-esque figures in the American government who seem willing to give it the old college try.

              What they did in the 19th century was egregious, though, and should be much more common knowledge than it is.

              It’s very difficult to talk about the English Empire as the world’s premier opium cartel without taking a bit of the blush off the rose of liberal democracy and free market capitalism. These historical blemishes get dusted over for a reason.

              • @[email protected]
                link
                fedilink
                English
                12 months ago

                It’s very difficult to talk about the English Empire as the world’s premier opium cartel without taking a bit of the blush off the rose of liberal democracy and free market capitalism. These historical blemishes get dusted over for a reason.

                I agree, but that reflex is unfortunate because the ability to openly discuss and confront those things is what sets democracies apart from totalitarian states. You could never see that kind of frank introspection in China regarding June 4th '89, for example.

                • @UnderpantsWeevil
                  link
                  English
                  12 months ago

                  You could never see that kind of frank introspection in China regarding June 4th '89, for example.

                  You could and did. That moment radically transformed how the Deng Administration treated independent political movements, college student activism, and old guard Maoist organizations.

                  The argument that Chinese politicians and scholars simply don’t acknowledge the events as happening is Western propaganda.

    • @Rakonat
      link
      English
      72 months ago

      The fact that Russia was ever on the winning side given their history was a fluke.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      52 months ago

      Russia was always on another side. The Ribbentrop Pact was a weak, untrusting handshake between two barbaric regimes with mutual hatred and a shared realization it would be easier to go rape and pillage more peaceful people instead of each other.

    • @vxx
      link
      English
      3
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      deleted by creator