Putin believe the U.S. and NATO started this war with their “expansion” and are to blame. Putin wants the U.S. to stop sending weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves. These are also Stein’s positions and she has no blame for Putin.
Somehow counties wanting to join NATO for protection against a known aggressor is being aggressive. Swed/Fin did not want to join NATO before the invasion. Putin changed those citizen’s minds.
You have a habit of leaving out important information, here let me get it for you:
“Absolutely, yes. It was wrong, it was a criminal.act, it’s a violation of international law. At the same time, this war has been ginned up by the US and NATO expansion towards Russian Territory.”
I don’t see it that way. She said ““Absolutely, yes. It was wrong, it was a criminal act, it’s a violation of international law.” How do you see that as she is defending his actions?
Her saying that the US and NATO sucks doesn’t support war.
I’m not voting for her, so I don’t care. But you’re wrong.
She didn’t say NATO and the US suck, she said they started it. You are either willfully misinterpreting this or are so disenfranchised from our current political climate that you’re ignoring serious red flags.
She specifically said she this it’s wrong what Putin is doing, and this it’s against international law. You are either willfully misinterpreting this or are so disenfranchised from our current political climate that you’re ignoring serious red flags.
While I personally disagree with this stance in this particular case, I think it’s reasonable to say on the one hand, A did wrong and A was bad, while also pointing out that it takes two to tango and that maybe there were some things that B could have done better.
So to recap, I agree with Stein on A (“It was wrong, it was a criminal act, it’s a violation of international law.”) but disagree with Stein on B (“this war has been ginned up by the US and NATO expansion towards Russian Territory.”)
In fact, I’m quite bothered here as Ukraine joining NATO doesn’t involve Russian Territory unless Ukraine itself is Russian Territory, which I simply cannot agree with.
This genuinely surprises me. You hype up Stein a ton on Lemmy. Pretty much every pro-Stein post I see on here is posted by you. And you defend her doggedly in the comments. That seems like a lot of effort and emotional investment for a candidate you won’t be voting for.
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Stein agrees with Putin. It suprised me.
Putin believe the U.S. and NATO started this war with their “expansion” and are to blame. Putin wants the U.S. to stop sending weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves. These are also Stein’s positions and she has no blame for Putin.
Somehow counties wanting to join NATO for protection against a known aggressor is being aggressive. Swed/Fin did not want to join NATO before the invasion. Putin changed those citizen’s minds.
She said that it was wrong and illegal and that she didn’t agree with it, in the very video you sent!
When asked if she felt it was wrong, she said, “Absolutely, yes. It was wrong, it was a criminal act, it’s a violation of international law.”
You have a habit of leaving out important information, here let me get it for you:
“Absolutely, yes. It was wrong, it was a criminal.act, it’s a violation of international law. At the same time, this war has been ginned up by the US and NATO expansion towards Russian Territory.”
She’s defending Putin’s actions, clearly.
I don’t see it that way. She said ““Absolutely, yes. It was wrong, it was a criminal act, it’s a violation of international law.” How do you see that as she is defending his actions?
Her saying that the US and NATO sucks doesn’t support war.
I’m not voting for her, so I don’t care. But you’re wrong.
She didn’t say NATO and the US suck, she said they started it. You are either willfully misinterpreting this or are so disenfranchised from our current political climate that you’re ignoring serious red flags.
She specifically said she this it’s wrong what Putin is doing, and this it’s against international law. You are either willfully misinterpreting this or are so disenfranchised from our current political climate that you’re ignoring serious red flags.
She’s just pulling a “I’m not racist, but…”
You dont say all that shit and then be like, b-but they started it! After having din-din with daddy Pootin.
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No, I’m contacting the person spreading it on the Fediverse, you.
While I personally disagree with this stance in this particular case, I think it’s reasonable to say on the one hand, A did wrong and A was bad, while also pointing out that it takes two to tango and that maybe there were some things that B could have done better.
So to recap, I agree with Stein on A (“It was wrong, it was a criminal act, it’s a violation of international law.”) but disagree with Stein on B (“this war has been ginned up by the US and NATO expansion towards Russian Territory.”)
In fact, I’m quite bothered here as Ukraine joining NATO doesn’t involve Russian Territory unless Ukraine itself is Russian Territory, which I simply cannot agree with.
Thanks for your reasonable response. You make great points.
This genuinely surprises me. You hype up Stein a ton on Lemmy. Pretty much every pro-Stein post I see on here is posted by you. And you defend her doggedly in the comments. That seems like a lot of effort and emotional investment for a candidate you won’t be voting for.
I’m not hyping her up. I’m posting news articles. I’m actually voting Socialist Workers Party. I like Stein, but I’m not voting for her.
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