• @[email protected]
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    I wouldn’t even mind snap so much but the day I found out apt would automatically use snaps instead for some packages with no easy opt out was a step too far.

    Drop it, snaps are dead. All hail FlatPak.

    • Gregor
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      22 months ago

      Try using flatpak for command-line software, I dare you

    • SkaveRat
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      I despise flatpak and snap equally

      Not a single time have I used a program with them that worked properly

      • Rolling Resistance
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        142 months ago

        You’ve been very unlucky. There’s plenty of properly working flatpaks.

      • @[email protected]
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        122 months ago

        lol what are you talking about? One of my daily drivers is Kinoite and it works great. What flatpaks are you having issues with? Frankly, you must be being hyperbolic, because tons of people use tons of flatpaks without issue.

        • SkaveRat
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          -62 months ago

          I mean, it’s great that it works for you.

          But I’m not even kidding. Literally every single one.

          I’ve now completely purged all snap and fp apps from my system and live a less angry life

          • @[email protected]
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            92 months ago

            Again: name them. Describe the failures.

            I simply don’t believe that you have 100% incompatibility, and I say that because I use a decently broad selection across several devices without any serious issues. Sure, they’re not perfect, but they’re a damn sight better than snaps, and in my experience, decently reliable.

            Back your claims with data, or be prepared to have people like me call bullshit.

            • @[email protected]
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              72 months ago

              I mean I find it hard to believe but this level of argumentativeness is silly and toxic. Why would they lie? Maybe they have some edge case or misconfiguration. Maybe they got unlucky and ran into some kind of breaking bug on their specific system. Shit happens.

            • SkaveRat
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              I’ve stopped using them for over a year now.

              Granted, most of the apps I used were snap based, but some of them were flatpack.

              Most of them were single-use “use this tool with flatpack” tools via github, so I really can’t remember what those were when they just didn’t work.

              The ones I looked into why it didn’t work were always some filesystem permission stuff. Configurable? Sure. Not something you should be needing to do on first launch if you want to just use the tool? Absolutely

              The biggest issue I remember I had was with Vorta, a GUI for borg. Which also just had massive filesystem issues (plus some settings saving issues, which I assume also is a FS issue). Having problems reading your filesystem is quite a problem when you want to use a tool that, well, needs to read your filesystem.

              I’m honestly not really interested in stacking a pile of tools up that just didn’t work for me.

              If you like flatpack, go ahead. More power to the people who do.

              It’s just not a tool that I had any luck with. And I don’t really see a point in trying again for the forseeable future

      • @[email protected]
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        72 months ago

        Interesting. I use an immutable distro (Fedora Kinoite) so basically everything I use outside of the apps bundled with the OS are flatpaks. Other than learning a few things about FlatPak permissions, file locations, etc, it’s been completely painless.

      • @Blemgo
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        What I experienced is that Snaps/Flatpaks that contain X11 apps will behave very oddly in a Wayland sessions, at least with NVidia GPUs.

        Using distros that still use X11, like Linux Mint, seems to help a lot.

        One thing I will commend Snaps/Flatpak for however is bundling dependencies, especially deprecated ones. I spent DAYS trying to install an older version of .NET framework that’s no longer supported to get a game (Vintage Story), but to no avail. With the appropriate Snap/Flatpak it worked first try, well, once I found the distro that doesn’t have the X11 problem that was previously stated.