“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.
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Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.
Yeah, though not in the domain of singing.
It’s ok to not like something, you know. Pretending they’re not good is pretty weird tho.
No pretense. They are not good in my subjective opinion just like they might be good in your subjective opinion. There’s no objective taste.
Objectively, she is very successful and popular.
Objectively, nobody asked for your opinion.
Subjectively, anyone taking jabs at Swift right now, especially in the context of her endorsement of Harris, is coming across as very suspicious.
I don’t have to be asked that by some moron to express my opinions.
I’m not sure you know what the word “objective” means.
Objectively, the woman has almost 300 million total followers, and has driven almost a half million new signups in TWO DAYS with her post clarifying she’s not supporting Team Red. Objectively, she has a net worth that pisses off quite a few liberals because we tend to think having billions of dollars is millions of people living in abject poverty. Objectively she is a part of American popular culture. Objectively, she has eleven singles ranked at the top of the Billboard Hot 100 chart. Objectively, she has 232 charted titles on the Hot 100 as of February of this year, ranking her as the most accomplished woman and in the top ten of ALL singers, world-wide. By all objective measures, this woman is a really damn good singer.
Your opinions of her are your own, which is subjective. The numbers I cited above, taken from Billboard are very objective numbers based on how often songs are bought and streamed. While it’s very subjective for individual viewers (and I agree, she’s not my cup of tea either!), the objective fact is that Swift speaks to a lot of people, and your personal disdain for her doesn’t change that fact one stinkin’ bit.
Todd is absolutely right, though. It’s a very Salty Rightie thing to do to come in an attack a woman with some serious musical awards and accomplishments and say just because he didn’t like her, she’s no good. Anyone pulling this crap right now really looks defeated, humiliated, and just plain utterly SAD, a sad sack of a bitter and scorned rightie angry that a pretty girl rejected their Emprah and endorsed the other side.
Good that you noticed.
There’s no such thing as objectively good singer.
That said, my initial comment didn’t make my opinion any more “objective” than yours - one subjective opinion against another.
Disdain? Could you stop whiteknighting please?
You have a weird mind.
I don’t live and don’t vote in the USA ; that aside, Trump winning would mean existential risks for part of my family.
Now, what does it say about you - to pull all this shit out of your imagination without any real reason whatsoever?
I’m gonna stop you right there, chief. Singing ability is measurable, and quantifiable. You absolutely can be objectively good or bad at it. This isn’t a statement of personal taste, it’s a matter of basic observation. It is possible to dislike a song, and conclude the singing is good. It’s possible to like a song and conclude that the singing is bad.
You can be wrong about a person’s singing ability if you are unable to separate your personal preferences for singing with an objective look at things like a singer’s pitch control, consistency, emotionality, and flexibility.
Musical preference is a subjective thing, but musical theory is much less so.
With that said, Taylor Swift is objectively an excellent singer. I’m not a huge fan of her music, but I don’t have to be to know that it’s true.
I could say that singing ability differs between various things that can be called singing in various cultures, and anything depending on spectator’s evaluation (pleasure) is subjective, but these are obvious, so whatever, hold a cookie
Sure, here on the Internet where the Men are Men, the Women are Men, the Children are FBI Agents, SURE you’re not a deranged trumper shitting on the lady who your side tried to coopt a few weeks ago, and nobody, and I mean nobody knows I’m a cat.
I don’t trust you and you shitting on Swift is doing you no favours. If you don’t like Swift, you move on. That you didn’t and continue to attack anyone who questions your silliness suggests that you’re more than non-appreciative of her as a singer. Hell, I don’t like her as a singer. But I’m not going to act like a bitchy MAGA idiot by shitting on her music on a thread about how she is making bitchy MAGA idiots lose their shit by endorsing the other person. :)
Actually I was thinking you might be tasty…
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… is a normal reaction, behave like a moron - receive all kinds of insulting responses. Just admit it and move on.
Objectively speaking she can dance and keep a crowd going while still hitting her notes. It doesn’t matter if you don’t enjoy the music, she’s objectively doing a good job. You critiqued her singing, not her music.
But it IS the domain of the Republican party 🤔
Hmmm, it’s almost as if one can choose not to support/apologize for these cretins.
So what brought you to this thread?
Success is more important than talent. Success pays the bills better.
Being successful and not talented doesn’t make you talented even if success pays the bills better.
Doesn’t mean Taylor Swift is not talented in her own way, I don’t get what triggered all you guys. It seems sometimes that the expected variety of thought among English speakers is less than among Russian speakers. Where even in the toxic Russian Web people would ask first, you guys go stampeding.
Just like, say, Azerbaijan having oil to bribe politicians and wage war doesn’t mean they have history and culture and Armenia doesn’t. They would very much like to buy history and culture, but they can’t.