• @ccunning
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    163 days ago

    Why are third parties so bad at accomplishing basic shit like getting on the ballot? Saw the same issues in Georgia.

    Makes me real skeptical about them being competent enough to run the county. That’s for sure.

    • @blazera
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      -213 days ago

      You should be asking why democrats are fighting so hard to keep these people out of elections.

      • @almar_quigley
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        153 days ago

        You should be asking why republicans are trying so hard to get them IN the elections.

        • @blazera
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          -93 days ago

          I know it improves their odds. But its by virtue of making elections more democratic. You let progressive parties in and then democrats lose, because democrats dont represent progressives. You want to ban progressive candidates, democrats should become more progressive to compete.

          • @almar_quigley
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            53 days ago

            Your logic is flawed because we live in a two party system. Third parties in our current setup are only spoilers. We need to address the foundational issues FIRST and then we can get more than even 3 parties in. Otherwise you’re going to get republicans fixing the system so they never leave power and then we’re all fucked forever with no chance of improvement.

            • @blazera
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              -23 days ago

              We need to address the foundational issues FIRST

              Thats what Im doing, youre vehemently opposing that change

              • @almar_quigley
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                23 days ago

                You clearly don’t understand the meaning of first. And this is why progressives and the Green Party never make any headway. You think you’re working in a system that’s fair and will work if you just try hard enough. Except you only end up fighting the people most loosely aligned to yall and you end up letting the country move further and further to the right.

                • @blazera
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                  03 days ago

                  Explain it to me then. Lay out your game plan that changes the foundation, that doesnt involve electing a different party

                  • @[email protected]
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                    13 days ago

                    How about they run a candidate for congress first? Why is it I only ever hear about the green party during presidential elections? That right there tells me they are nothing more then useful idiots for the right.

          • @[email protected]
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            33 days ago

            That’s the wrong conclusion. If two Democrats were on the ballot, they would likely still both lose because of first past the post voting. If you really want to support “making elections more democratic” push for ranked choice voting, or proportional representation.

            • @blazera
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              -13 days ago

              What a surprise, guess who supports ranked choice voting? The green party! Yet another reason democrats fight so hard to keep them from competing

      • @[email protected]
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        83 days ago

        Because the Green Party under Jill Stein exists ONLY to be a spoiler for Democrats.

        She has no actual intentions of getting elected, her only goal is to profit from appearing to do so while getting enough attention to fan her enormous ego.

        • @blazera
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          -23 days ago

          You make it sound like its her decision whether or not she gets elected

            • @blazera
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              03 days ago

              Yeah, thats the decision she gets to make, to run. Not whether or not she gets elected. She hasnt won and somehow that means she has no intention to.

              • @[email protected]
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                23 days ago

                Yea so what are you even saying in your previous comment? I don’t even get why you’re trying to push an obviously gop backed candidate.

                • @blazera
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                  02 days ago

                  Thinking not winning is proof someone doesnt intend to win is ridiculous