• @[email protected]
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    793 months ago

    Good lord the discourse here is about as well as the man or bear discussions.

    Something I notice is how everytime someone makes these kinds of criticisms, the counterarguments turn into a pit of semantics and extropolations. As if the original post was a massive research thesis rather than just women venting frustration over the entitlement and danger they’re subjected to daily.

    You gotta look past the specific wording to see the overarching societal themes, emotions, and issues. It’s like those magic eye pictures.

    • @[email protected]
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      253 months ago

      The undercurrent of misogyny is so so rampant on Lemmy, worse even than reddit was. Posts like this bring it right out. I can’t believe how many upvotes some of these red-pill-ass comments have. It’s really discouraging to see and often makes me too nervous to speak up on women’s issues here on Lemmy, lest I be absolutely brigaded.

      At least the bear can’t use a keyboard and thus wouldn’t be able to try and bully me into shutting up on the internet, so there’s another instance where I’d choose a bear over a random man.

        • Schadrach
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          13 months ago

          The difference is that shitting on men is acceptable. At worst it’s venting a bit. And collectively attacking men is fine.

          Not like saying something negative about a woman, in which case you have to be very absolutely clear that you are only talking about that one woman in that one scenario and that it is in no way representative of any other scenario or woman, and even then you’ll be accused of misogyny.

          But then this notion that it’s OK to talk shit about men but women are either positive or victims at worst shows in a lot of feminist lingo.

          For example, what do you call it when a company markets a version of a product specifically to women and charges a higher price in doing so and women buy it? The pink tax. What do you call it when a company markets a version of a product specifically to men and charges a higher price in doing so and men buy it? Male fragility.

        • @[email protected]
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          -13 months ago

          Goodness gracious, it’s almost like you’re commenting on the thread almost a day later and maybe the comments are a bit different now, as opposed to earlier.

          • @drunkpostdisaster
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            -13 months ago

            Just saying what I am saying not my fault posts take forever for anything new to come up to my feed.

            • @[email protected]
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              13 months ago

              No, but deciding to comment is a choice you made, not something out of your control like something appearing in your feed.

      • @[email protected]
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        173 months ago

        At least the bear can’t use a keyboard and thus wouldn’t be able to try and bully me into shutting up on the internet, so there’s another instance where I’d choose a bear over a random man.

        Absolute mood.

      • Riley
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        33 months ago

        Lemmy is a lot less women-friendly, queer-friendly, trans-friendly than the rest of the fediverse. That really needs to change.

      • Riley
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        33 months ago

        Lemmy is a lot less women-friendly, queer-friendly, trans-friendly than the rest of the fediverse. That really needs to change.

      • @[email protected]
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        23 months ago

        I agree there is sexism, but were you on Reddit for those first few years? This place is a Disney movie compared to how Reddit used to be.

        • @[email protected]
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          33 months ago

          I actually mentioned that in a comment above. Reddit used to be just as bad, if not worse indeed, but that doesn’t excuse Lemmy by any means. I do hope that it’s a good indicator that Lemmy will get better with time, though.

      • @[email protected]
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        03 months ago

        The undercurrent of misogyny is so so rampant on Lemmy, worse even than reddit was

        Surprised if true

    • @Soup
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      143 months ago

      It’s insane. They get absolutely bent the fuck out of shape when women don’t immediately trust them to go into dark alleys with them and when a woman just says explicitly, off the top, what she wants and it doesn’t line up with their desires they go feral telling her unreasonable she’s being.

      They talk such big shit about being generalized and then in turn refuse to accept a woman’s individual choices and preferences. They don’t even stop to understand that women cannot read minds to know who’s safe or not, and frankly just in that they kinda show exactly why they might be having trouble.

      “I’d just like some basic emotional maturity.”

      “Ok so this one time a woman was mean to me so real quick I’m gunna weaponize that and tell you that it gives me permission to be a big fucking baby.”

      • Makhno
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        03 months ago

        They get absolutely bent the fuck out of shape

        Yet you’re the one whining 🤔

        • @Soup
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          23 months ago

          “No you”

          Just stop.

    • @[email protected]
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      133 months ago

      I thought the funniest part about the man vs bear stuff was women saying how they’d pick the bear because “at least it was honest about wanting to kill me” lmao

    • Delta
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      83 months ago

      Had to scroll waaay too far to find something sane.