• @exanime
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    8 hours ago

    You are correct, but that has happened with American brands (even cars) before

    At half the price of other EVs, I bet an entire new class of service stores, half mechanic shop, half third party parts, half mods, would spring into existence if these cars are allowed in the market

    Instead, we protect the horrible local brands

    • @[email protected]
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      13 hours ago

      Our tariffs aren’t there to protect local brands they protect every foreign brand in the US too which make up 2/3 of the market.

    • @[email protected]
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      26 hours ago

      American manufacturers need to provide parts for 10 years after the last of the same model car rolled off the assembly line. Good luck forcing Chinese brands to respect that.

      • @exanime
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        15 hours ago

        Why? doesn’t Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, SaaB and all the non-American brands already do this? why would China not be able to do it?

        A ton of the parts for the American cars actually come from China, why would it be harder for China to do what they already do on behalf of the American manufacturers?

        • @[email protected]
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          24 hours ago

          It’s not about whether they can, it’s about whether they will.

          Spoiler: they won’t.

          • @exanime
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            12 hours ago

            Again, not sure why you are so certain about that when China is already manufacturing the parts for the companies you trust to have them

        • @[email protected]
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          14 hours ago

          Because it’s standard practice in China to just close a company and restart it under a new name. The government can decide to shut down everything overnight.

          Look at parts availability for stuff sold by Chinese brands.

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            12 hours ago

            I can find parts for Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, Mazda, etc all made in China. Why does it work for American and foreign companies making every part they sell in China but it wouldn’t work for a Chinese company

            And, if that is the case, wouldn’t it make more sense to just force them to establish some corporate headquarters in the USA (as they rest of the brands do)?

            • @[email protected]
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              152 minutes ago

              That’s established and stable brands that manufacture things in China which is completely different from Chinese brands building things in China and that can just close their doors tomorrow morning and leave the owners without any source for parts.

              If an established manufacturer closes their doors tomorrow morning the same issue arises, the difference is that Chinese companies are known to do that and the Chinese government sometimes is responsible for closing them or simply doesn’t care about the effect on customers. They can reopen the following day and produce the same items as before but they won’t send you parts for the thing they were producing the day prior because it’s not the same company anymore.

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                134 minutes ago

                Well, that’s kind of what is happening today with brands started in the USA as well (Henrik Fisker pulled this stunt twice with Karma and the Fisker Automotive)

                I do get your point, I just have a hard time dismissing any and all Chinese cars when the collective “we” have no issue dealing with China as long as there is some middle man charging a premium. I also have a hard time understanding how tariffs address any of these issues.

                China is stable enough, or so it seems, to supply most of our electronics, electrical components, plastics, tools, mechanical parts, etc etc etc… There is certainly a way to work with them in a stable way.