• @jordanlund
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    44 hours ago

    No point meeting them because what they want, the complete defunding of Israel, is a political impossibility.

    They aren’t going to listen to the reasons it’s a political impossibility, so there’s no point talking to them.

    • @Psychodelic
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      54 hours ago

      And here I thought they just wanted Israel to stop their genocide of Palestinians

      Shit, I bet if they’d negotiated in good faith people would’ve been happy for them to just stop butchering the children. I’d personally be happy if they spares one child live for every one they choose to murder - but I’m just a bit more reasonable than most, I guess

      • @jordanlund
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        74 hours ago

        That’s not what they want of Harris. They honestly believe that if we stop funding Israel, the genocide would stop.

        It wouldn’t. Israel has never needed our help to commit war crimes, but you can’t convince them of that.

        • @[email protected]
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          63 hours ago

          If Israel doesn’t need the free weapons that cost us hundreds of billions of dollars, then lets stop wasting the money.

        • @distantsounds
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          34 hours ago

          If Israel never needed the aid to commit war crimes, why would the US continue to send 20000lb bombs etc? Those are not defensive.

          We want Harris to deny all non-defensive munition shipments. Stop aid until Israel comes to the table in good faith and stops escalation

          • @jordanlund
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            24 hours ago

            We would, because the stated purpose for our support is so that Israel can defend against a potential attack.

            No US politician is going to argue Israel can’t defend itself.

            The problem is Bibi and Likud re-directing that support for defense into offense.