I’ve noticed some files I opened in a text editor have all kinds of crazy unrenderable chars

    • @cheese_greaterOP
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      6 hours ago

      Can you comment on the specific makeup of a “rendered” audio file in plaintext, how is the computer representing every little noise bit of sound at any given point, the polyphony etc?

      What are the conventions of such representation? How can a spectrogram tell pitches are where they are, how is the computer representing that?

      Is it the same to view plaintext as analysing it with a hex-viewer?

      • Ephera
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        36 hours ago

        There’s two things at play here.

        MP3 (or WAV, OGG, FLAC etc.) provide a way to encode polyphony and stereo and such into a sequence of bytes.

        And then separately, there’s Unicode (or ASCII) for encoding letters into bytes. These are just big tables which say e.g.:

        • 01000001 = uppercase ‘A’
        • 01000010 = uppercase ‘B’
        • 01100001 = lowercase ‘A’

        So, what your text editor does, is that it looks at the sequence of bytes that MP3 encoded and then it just looks into its table and somewhat erronously interprets it as individual letters.

      • @[email protected]
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        36 hours ago

        I think you are conflating a few different concepts here.

        Can you comment on the specific makeup of a “rendered” audio file in plaintext, how is the computer representing every little noise bit of sound at any given point, the polyphony etc?
        What are the conventions of such representation? How can a spectrogram tell pitches are where they are, how is the computer representing that?

        This is a completely separate concern from how data can be represented as text, and will vary by audio format. The “simplest”, PCM encoded audio like in a .wav file, doesn’t really concern itself at all with polyphony and is just a quantised representation of the audio wave amplitude at any given instant in time. It samples that tens of thousands of times per second. Whether it’s a single pure tone or a full symphony the density of what’s stored is the same. Just an air-pressure-over-time graph, essentially.

        Is it the same to view plaintext as analysing it with a hex-viewer?

        “Plaintext” doesn’t really have a fixed definition in this context. It can be the same as looking at it in a hex viewer, if your “plaintext” representation is hexadecimal encoding. Binary data, like in audio files, isn’t plaintext, and opening it directly in a text editor is not expected to give you a useful result, or even a consistent result. Different editors might show you different “text” depending on what encoding they fall back on, or how they represent unprintable characters.

        There are several methods of representing binary data as text, such as hexadecimal, base64, or uuencode, but none of these representations if saved as-is are the original file, strictly speaking.

      • @AbouBenAdhem
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        26 hours ago

        Most binary-to-text encodings don’t attempt to make the text human-readable—they’re just intended to transmit the data over a text-only medium to a recipient who will decode it back to the original binary format.

        • @cheese_greaterOP
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          6 hours ago

          I do understand I’m not able to read it myself, I’m more curious about the architecture of how that data is represented and stored and conceptually how such representation is practically organized/reified…

          • @AbouBenAdhem
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            5 hours ago

            The original binary format is broken into six-bit chunks (e.g., 100101), which in decimal format correspond to the integers from 0 to 63. These are just mapped to letters in order:
            000000 (0) = A,
            000001 (1) = B,
            000010 (2) = C,
            etc.—it goes through the capital letters first, then lower-case letters, then digits, then “+” and “/”.

            It’s so simple you could do it by hand from the above description, if you were looking at the data in binary format.