• @EnderMB
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    5313 hours ago

    No, they shouldn’t make $15 an hour. They should make whatever is needed to sustain themselves and a family, including a pension and any healthcar costs. That’s probably well over $15 an hour.

    • @A_Random_Idiot
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      1011 hours ago

      i think the last time i saw someone do the math, that by the time 15 is fully rollled out everwhere the minimum would need to be like 26-30 dollars an hour to keep up with ridiculous costs of everything.

      • @EmpathicVagrant
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        38 hours ago

        Meanwhile the same job 70 years ago paid the equivalent of $34 plus benefits

        • ObjectivityIncarnate
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          16 hours ago

          The minimum wage in the US has never been higher than about $12 in today’s dollars.

          • @EmpathicVagrant
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            11 hour ago

            And the workers weren’t all paid minimum wages at the time.

        • @A_Random_Idiot
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          07 hours ago

          you could go to college on a part time job and have no debt.

          • @[email protected]
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            6 hours ago

            Also no health insurance, no IRA, eat only rice and beans/ramen, live in a small studio with a roommate, can’t afford anything new and salvaging from flea markets and thrift stores… And the college is community college with lots of grants from the government.

            So you’re saying live extremely frugal and struggling?

          • ObjectivityIncarnate
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            26 hours ago

            That had nothing to do with the minimum wage (which has been lower than $15 of today’s dollars since inception), but because of how much cheaper college was back then.

            • @A_Random_Idiot
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              03 hours ago

              “Its not about pay, its just about how more affordable things were for the pay you earned back then!”

              • ObjectivityIncarnate
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                11 hour ago

                College tuition has massively outpaced inflation, much less wage growth.

                The policies (chiefly the change that made student loans no longer dischargeable in bankruptcy) that rocketed college tuition up are a MUCH more significant factor in college affordability, that’s just a fact.