I mean, to be fair to those folks, as they are citizens it’s highly unlikely that even that guy could get them all deported.
Our Supreme Court just gave him a free ticket to do whatever the hell he wants, as long as it can be traced back to his official capacity. The only check on this is impeachment, which fails as long as 34 Senators are on his side.
Health Care was a bugaboo for him because he needed to get Congress to go along, and those people still need to win their own elections. But he would have all the things he needs to deport all the people he doesn’t like, without Congress: a pen to write Executive Orders, a Corps of Engineers to build camps, a complacent Judiciary, and a total lack of a conscience.
Our Supreme Court just gave him a free ticket to do whatever the hell he wants, as long as it can be traced back to his official capacity.
Keep in mind though, this is in reference to him being eligible to be criminally charged or civilly sued. In other words, this just prevents him from getting personally punished for it. But it doesn’t give him any new powers.
Health Care was a bugaboo for him because he needed to get Congress to go along, and those people still need to win their own elections.
This predates the SC case you are referring to but it’s the perfect example. If he got reelected he couldn’t just decree the end of the ACA/Obamacare. He couldn’t be punished for not following the rules but he’d still need others to go along with it to make any effective change here.
Also remember - when his “muslim ban” was first put into place, judges were effective in blocking it. Only after he changed it to a more palatable form did the SC approve it and allow it to be enforced. (One of those changes? Allowing dual citizens and green card holders.)
But he would have all the things he needs to deport all the people he doesn’t like, without Congress: a pen to write Executive Orders, a Corps of Engineers to build camps, a complacent Judiciary, and a total lack of a conscience.
I think the part we disagree on here is the “complacent judiciary” bit. I wouldn’t say that’s not true - but allowing deportation of natural born citizens with no other citizenship would be a tough swallow even for the current SC.
(Normally, there’d be another headache here - if successfully stripped of citizenship, these folks would have no other, so they’d have no country to be deported to. But I think you addressed that in your response - presumably his plan would be that they’d just be kept in interment camps build by the Engineering Corps until some country takes pity and accepted them, or until they die.)
Our Supreme Court just gave him a free ticket to do whatever the hell he wants, as long as it can be traced back to his official capacity. The only check on this is impeachment, which fails as long as 34 Senators are on his side.
Health Care was a bugaboo for him because he needed to get Congress to go along, and those people still need to win their own elections. But he would have all the things he needs to deport all the people he doesn’t like, without Congress: a pen to write Executive Orders, a Corps of Engineers to build camps, a complacent Judiciary, and a total lack of a conscience.
Keep in mind though, this is in reference to him being eligible to be criminally charged or civilly sued. In other words, this just prevents him from getting personally punished for it. But it doesn’t give him any new powers.
This predates the SC case you are referring to but it’s the perfect example. If he got reelected he couldn’t just decree the end of the ACA/Obamacare. He couldn’t be punished for not following the rules but he’d still need others to go along with it to make any effective change here.
Also remember - when his “muslim ban” was first put into place, judges were effective in blocking it. Only after he changed it to a more palatable form did the SC approve it and allow it to be enforced. (One of those changes? Allowing dual citizens and green card holders.)
I think the part we disagree on here is the “complacent judiciary” bit. I wouldn’t say that’s not true - but allowing deportation of natural born citizens with no other citizenship would be a tough swallow even for the current SC.
(Normally, there’d be another headache here - if successfully stripped of citizenship, these folks would have no other, so they’d have no country to be deported to. But I think you addressed that in your response - presumably his plan would be that they’d just be kept in interment camps build by the Engineering Corps until some country takes pity and accepted them, or until they die.)