• Drusas
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    82 months ago

    I was looking into the ingredients of a vegan macaroni and cheese sauce I really loved which is no longer available. I was dismayed to see that the number one ingredient is palm oil. Reminder to also avoid palm oil because most palm oil plantations involve razing forest habitat, especially negatively impacting orangutans.

    • @jeffwOP
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      22 months ago

      It would be interesting to see an analysis of deforestation for dairy vs palm oil. We only ever hear about deforestation for meat, so idk what it looks like for dairy

      • Drusas
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        12 months ago

        That would be interesting, but orangutans in particular have increasingly little land upon which they can live and it’s largely due to palm oil plantations. The situation is a bit urgent for them.

        • @jeffwOP
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          12 months ago

          Ok. But the Amazon is being destroyed for meat? And that’s a lot of animals

          • Drusas
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            02 months ago

            Okay, and? That’s just whataboutism. It doesn’t change that orangutans are endangered by palm oil plantations.

            • @jeffwOP
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              12 months ago

              I can’t tell if this is satire or not? Ok fine, one animal is endangered by palm oil. Thousands are endangered by meat deforestation.

              • Drusas
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                02 months ago

                That’s just whataboutism. We don’t need to not care about orangutans just because other animals are also in danger.

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                  2 months ago

                  Right… you brought whataboutism into a thread about the impact of meat and dairy and made it about palm oil.

                  Do you do this on articles about Hurricane Helene? I’m really lost as to how we got here if you’re now saying you are against whataboutism

                  • Drusas
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                    12 months ago

                    The topic is vegan cheese. I was discussing vegan cheese, perfectly on topic.