• Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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    -613 hours ago

    There was non super-delegate rat fuckery thwarting the popular vote. Put that on the voters.

    Fair point!

    But I don’t think after a Harris win we are going to magically have RCV. How many fucking years have they had to change the system? I just don’t share your faith they will.

    So I’m not voting for them.

    • Baron Von J
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      511 hours ago

      But I don’t think after a Harris win we are going to magically have RCV

      I never claimed electing Harris will get us RCV. I’ve said pretty consistently that the presidential election is in no way connected to us getting RCV. We will only get RCV from a bottom-up effort to shift individual state legislatures.

      • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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        -511 hours ago

        And I am saying that Democrats (and Republicans) don’t really want that to happen, or they would have made it happen already.

        • Baron Von J
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          410 hours ago

          The Tea Party successfully shifted the Republican party farther right by running and winning in their primaries. Why is it inconceivable that progressives can do the same in the Democratic primaries?

          • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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            It’s not inconceivable, but I think it’s improbable. So I’m not voting for them. Why haven’t they done it yet?

            • Baron Von J
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              310 hours ago

              Because there haven’t been primary candidates winning their primaries on that issue. They won’t do it as a party.