• Carighan Maconar
      8•3 months ago

      When they have no good material, they start to promote unrelated things to gameplay. This is just one of those things.

      Didn’t YOU just say that people focus on the visuals of characters? As in, something unrelated to gameplay?

        • Carighan Maconar
          4•3 months ago

          Visuals are part of the experience, it’s not unrelated.

          Why? Or rather, why this, but apparently not your character or their back story?

          There are a lot of good games that can be considered as “woke” and no one talk about them like this.

          [citation needed]

            • Carighan Maconar
              4•3 months ago

              So “woke” means all of the following together, trying to summarize:

              • A game includes anything related to LGBTQ+ or political left-leaning ideology.
              • The above is presented via non-gameplay elements. It’s fine if its in the gameplay.
              • The game was a commercial flop or critically panned.

              Did I sum that up correctly?

                • Carighan Maconar
                  2•3 months ago

                  So this then begs the question, why are people decrying games as “woke” trying so hard to push their political agenda into gaming discussions? After all, as per point 1 + point 3, the game was already criticized/panned anyways, then someone came in and tries to push the critique onto a political level instead of a game one.

            • @[email protected]
              2•3 months ago

              Citation: Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur’s Gate 3, I can even put Stardew Valley in this list, though not as vocal as others. I didn’t see anyone bash these games as being woke, or maybe they are a minority if there are.

              You have spend zero time in game forums talking about Baldur’s Gate 3 if you think it wasn’t criticized for being woke. The best game of the year by every metric, and conservatives got batshit insane about a slider for gender that contained “non-binary” as an option. The first year or so every second steam discussion was about that topic.

                • @[email protected]
                  2•3 months ago

                  Which goes to show that it being heavily criticized for being woke has nothing to do with quality. It’s not a “symptom” of a bad game, like you wrote earlier.

                  If Dragon age flops it will do so because it’s a bad game, not because it’s woke - the people who actually give games bad ratings for that are thankfully always a very small minority, no matter what a conservative bubble, right wing influencers, or some random internet shit storm might suggest to you. Your original comment simply missed the point.