• @frostmore
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    your comment will be downvoted coz lemmy is full of left wingers who prefers to instill their lame ass rhetorics than see the fact that it was hamas and their asswipe cronies that handed israel the reason on a silver platter.

    lets not forget,these hamas terrorist supporters had no qualms using civilians as shields,israel just decided to even the playong field.

    • @ryry1985
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      113 months ago

      You don’t think they’re well past evening the playing field by now?

      • @I_Has_A_Hat
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        It’s not about winning the fight, it’s about ensuring they are never considered a viable target again.

      • @frostmore
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        israel lost the plot,that much is certain.

        as of now,hamas handed israel the golden key and israel will not hesitate to use it to the fullest.

        genocide or not,until hamas is exterminated,israel will not face any consequences for their actions.

        • @ryry1985
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          53 months ago

          At what point should they have consequences? They can’t keep bombing civilians without consequence

            • @Keeponstalin
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              33 months ago

              Sounds familiar

              Dehumanization refers to the act of perceiving victimized subgroups as not completely human. Psychologists distinguish between two types of non-humanness: one that denies uniquely human attributes to others by comparing them to animals

              “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly"

              • Yoav Gallant Minister of Defense

              “Those are animals, they have no right to exist. I am not debating they way it will happen, but they need to be exterminated”.

              • @frostmore
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                -33 months ago

                still not changing my mind nor stance.

                end hamas,then you can come highlighting how bad israel is.

                • @Keeponstalin
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                  23 months ago

                  Hamas only ends when the Apartheid and Occupation end, Hamas only exists because of the occupation

                  • @frostmore
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                    -23 months ago

                    sure thing,whatever floats your boat.

                • NoneOfUrBusiness
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                  Uh… The literally nothing will happen because there’s nobody to fight for Palestinian freedom. You do realize there’s a reason resistance organizations exist, right?

                  • @frostmore
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                    if you are hamas,you aren’t terrorists who kill innocent civilians,you are killing unarmed combatants and kafir.

                    all for the resistance right??? right???

    • @SmilingSolaris
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      53 months ago

      If the only thing stopping you from doing war crimes is a reason then your a scumbag.

            • @SmilingSolaris
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              13 months ago

              “This is the only story of mine whose moral I know,” writes Kurt Vonnegut at the beginning of his 1962 novel Mother Night. “I don’t think it’s a marvelous moral; I simply happen to know what it is: We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”

    • @Keeponstalin
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      Stop pushing this BS to justify Israel’s Genocide. On the subject of Human Shields, there are some independent reports for past conflicts of Hamas jeopardizing the safety of civilians via Rocket fire in dense urban areas, two instances during Oct 7th, but no independent verification since then so far. None of which absolve Israel of the crime of targeting civilians under international law:

      Intentionally utilizing the presence of civilians or other protected persons to render certain areas immune from military attack is prohibited under international law. Amnesty International was not able to establish whether or not the fighters’ presence in the camps was intended to shield themselves from military attacks. However, under international humanitarian law, even if one party uses “human shields”, or is otherwise unlawfully endangering civilians, this does not absolve the opposing party from complying with its obligations to distinguish between military objectives and civilians or civilian objects, to refrain from carrying out indiscriminate or disproportionate attacks, and to take all feasible precautions to spare civilians and civilian objects.

      Additionally, there is extensive independent verification of Israel using Palestinians as Human Shields: IDF uses Human Shields, including Children (2013 Report), and in the latest war Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds

        • @Keeponstalin
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          13 months ago

          No surprise you deflect and lie about my position. I’m an advocate for equal rights. Take your own advice and recognize that the hundreds of thousands dead at the hands of Israel are human beings just like you and me.

          Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place. Israel has been the only one to reject the UN Resolution 3-Stage Permanent Ceasefire put forth by the US.

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          During the current war, Hamas officials have said that the group does not want to return to ruling Gaza and that it advocates for forming a government of technocrats to be agreed upon by the various Palestinian factions. That government would then prepare for elections in Gaza and the West Bank, with the intention of forming a unified government.

          Before that, both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

          Israel has always been the obstacle for peace, because it is a Settler Colonialist Ethnostate founded on, and ever continuing, ethnic cleansing

          Settlements

          Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.

          This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.

          The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:

          Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:

          While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements

          The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.

          State violence – official and otherwise – is part and parcel of Israel’s apartheid regime, which aims to create a Jewish-only space between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. The regime treats land as a resource designed to serve the Jewish public, and accordingly uses it almost exclusively to develop and expand existing Jewish residential communities and to build new ones. At the same time, the regime fragments Palestinian space, dispossesses Palestinians of their land and relegates them to living in small, over-populated enclaves.

          The apartheid regime is based on organized, systemic violence against Palestinians, which is carried out by numerous agents: the government, the military, the Civil Administration, the Supreme Court, the Israel Police, the Israel Security Agency, the Israel Prison Service, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, and others. Settlers are another item on this list, and the state incorporates their violence into its own official acts of violence. Settler violence sometimes precedes instances of official violence by Israeli authorities, and at other times is incorporated into them. Like state violence, settler violence is organized, institutionalized, well-equipped and implemented in order to achieve a defined strategic goal.

          One or Two State Solution

          The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.

          • Avi Shlaim

          How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

          ‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

          One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

          Hamas officials should be held accountable for all war crimes committed, same as all Israeli officials. That said, there are many parallels between the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and Gaza.

          In the Shadow of the Holocaust by Masha Gessen, the situation in Gaza is compared to the Warsaw Ghettos. The comparison was also made by a Palestinian poet who was later killed by an Israeli airstrike. Adi Callai, an Israeli, has also written on the parallels in his article The Gaza Ghetto Uprising and expanded upon in his corresponding video

        • @SmilingSolaris
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          13 months ago

          Opens your mouth but ain’t prepared to deal with gasp evidence…?

          Facts, not feelings, and the fact of the matter is you are a genocidal person.

          • @frostmore
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            don’t care and even if i was genocidal,what can you do?

      • @frostmore
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        -63 months ago

        false equivalence…but if that’s what you believe,fuck if I care.