• Todd Bonzalez
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    132 months ago

    This wasn’t an act of war, it was an act of terrorism. They shot passengers on a train. All casualties were civilian.

    • abff08f4813c
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      21 month ago

      Exactly! This is why I say Israel has a right to defend itself while Hamas should not be allowed to exist.

      Though recent events (like Israel’s pager attack) have made this argument much weaker…

      • Todd Bonzalez
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        11 month ago

        Eh, Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah all have the right to exist, and to defend themselves. But we have to define that pretty strictly.

        Carpet-bombing Gaza isn’t defense.

        Slaughtering music festival attendees is not defense.

        Indiscriminate bomb planting and destination is not defense.

        Shooting up a train station is not defense.

        Bombing hospitals and aid trucks is not defense.

        I draw the line at deliberately or recklessly killing civilians.

        • abff08f4813c
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          11 month ago

          I otherwise agree with all your points.

          The issue with Hamas existing is due to its founding charter, see https://www.adl.org/resources/article/hamas-its-own-words for details on this but a brief summary is that it does not permit Israel to exist, period. There’s no theoretical deal or goal to reach for the both of them to existing side by side in peace.

          Hezbollah has similar issues.

    • Red Army Dog Cooper
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      -52 months ago

      there is under international law a diffrent set of rules of war the Palistianans operate under than Isn’treal do as Palistine is seen as an opressed and colonised people fighting for independence

        • Todd Bonzalez
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          -12 months ago

          Their hatred of Israelis. That’s the only possible excuse for supporting the deliberate slaughter of civilians (including women and children).

          If you’re mad at Israel for doing it, be mad at anyone doing it.