• ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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    174 hours ago

    You know it’s never the engineers and always the managers even with software, right?

    • @NotMyOldRedditName
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      3 hours ago

      always the managers even with software

      You know, I want this to be 100% true, but it’s not.

      I’ve been in software development for over a decade and while the managers are definitely high up there on the list of causing problems, I’ve also worked with enough shitty developers that don’t care enough. Then not everyone provides the same level of code review, some people are pretty bad at it and just rubber stamp things, and then a problem gets through.

      • @DerArzt
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        12 hours ago

        Isn’t this t the manager’s fault that those shitty developers are there as well though?

        • @spongebue
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          12 hours ago

          In theory a decent QA team will catch things being done by shitty developers. If your dev and QA is shit, management is shit for letting it happen.

          • @DerArzt
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            11 hour ago

            Man I wish we had QAs still at my Mega Corp. They removed the role and saddled development with that responsibility (along with getting rid our our business analysts and putting that also on the engineer’s responsibility list).

            • @hypnicjerk
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              121 minutes ago

              if they expect you to do a consultant’s work, they should pay you a consultant rate

        • @NotMyOldRedditName
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          12 hours ago

          Maybe over an extended period of time, but that’s not something people get fired for right away. Also bugs are a fact of life in software, and while some developers may ship more bugs than others, work still needs to get done, and it’s often better to try and train and improve an existing employee than fire them too soon.

    • @Mercuri
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      3 hours ago

      Ah you speak the truth. Fixed.