The elements of a conspiracy are (a) planning a crime with someone, and (b) taking any step, no matter how minor, to advance the plan.
Both are necessary. Planning a violent revolution without taking any concrete action is just talking shit, which is generally not illegal. Good thing for Lemmy users.
Likewise, inadvertently helping a murderer without having a criminal plan, like Ma and Pa, is also not illegal.
Put the two together, and you’ve got an illegal conspiracy.
Yeah I get what you’re saying now. The gun and the place to stay aren’t enough on their own. That’s not what you said earlier. Likewise trying to conduct diplomacy as a private citizen is both A and B. The conspiracy to interfere with the elected will of the people and actually doing so.
The elements of a conspiracy are (a) planning a crime with someone, and (b) taking any step, no matter how minor, to advance the plan.
Both are necessary. Planning a violent revolution without taking any concrete action is just talking shit, which is generally not illegal. Good thing for Lemmy users.
Likewise, inadvertently helping a murderer without having a criminal plan, like Ma and Pa, is also not illegal.
Put the two together, and you’ve got an illegal conspiracy.
Oh so you lied earlier then.
No, I didn’t. I’ll walk you through it again.
(a) Manson convinced people to join his murder plan. But he didn’t just convince people, he also
(b) Took a concrete step to actualize his plan
When (a) and (b) are both present, that’s a conspiracy
Yeah I get what you’re saying now. The gun and the place to stay aren’t enough on their own. That’s not what you said earlier. Likewise trying to conduct diplomacy as a private citizen is both A and B. The conspiracy to interfere with the elected will of the people and actually doing so.
“Interfering with the elected will” is not a crime.
If it were, all protests would be illegal.
Obviously it is. Otherwise the Logan act wouldn’t exist.
That’s like saying “homosexuality is a crime in Texas, because a law against it exists”.
If nobody will enforce a law that’s obviously unconstitutional, then that law de facto does not exist.
It’s not unconstitutional just because you like it though.