• wagesj45
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    582 months ago

    That thing about when he was in China was a shitshow from top to bottom. I had never even heard of the “controversy” so it was probably some bullshit the moderators threw in to appease the conspiracy lunatics and appear balanced. Then his answer was a bunch of nothing and flailing around. I don’t think he even answered it. The closest he got was “that’s what I said” and didn’t address the accuracy of the statement or an explanation in his answer. And then he stopped with a few seconds left in his allotted time and froze up and stammered for the rest of it.

    Tim Walz is, by all appearances, a stand up guy and smart as a tack. But that isn’t really what drives these debates. If they were won and lost on the merits, no Republican would have been elected in my lifetime. But they’re not about substance and by pretty much every measure that answer and interaction was a doozy of a loser.

    But that was the only answer that he flubbed like that, so the night wasn’t a total disaster for Walz. It just wasn’t a win.

      • @Landless2029
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        72 months ago

        Yeah it really threw him off.

        Itbwould have been cleaner if he said something along the lines of “I was there that summer and witnessed the people. History in the making. It was a few months after the march. I took my class’s blah blah blah.”

        A “real politician” would have set the record straight without using a negative word like “I was wrong/incorrect”

        His answer was a lot more genuine toe because of that. He over-explained due to nervousness and then said “I misspoke”

        I’d say he came in just under on that.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 months ago

          Exactly. The whole exchange seems like it caught him on the back foot and wasn’t something he was prepped for so he felt he had to explain the entire situation and got lost in his story and never put a bow on it. When the moderator pressed him after he had finished he followed up with basically “I misspoke, I apologize, shit happens”.

          Meanwhile Vance refused to give a solid answer on who won in 2020, but people say he took the debate.

          • @Landless2029
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            32 months ago

            Vice Presidental debate:
            “Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?” “We’re focused on the future…” “That’s a damning non answer.”

            Presidential debate:
            “They’re eating the dogs!!”

    • @Zexks
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      The fact that you got downvotes for this just shows how out of touch so many Lemmy users are. This is like the third time I’ve seen comments like yours take a hit because of the aversion to truth around here.

      • @[email protected]
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        242 months ago

        Coming up as 3 downvotes on my client. I wouldn’t say that’s 'so many Lemmy users ’ or am I missing something?

      • @[email protected]
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        182 months ago

        And your comment shows how out of touch you are. Correcting a claim that was off a few months decades ago isn’t even in the same stratosphere as refusing to acknowledge Trump lost the 2020 election. You’ve been brainwashed to normalize traitors.

      • wagesj45
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        52 months ago

        Emotions run high around politics right now. Can’t I say I blame people for that. Shits fucked. And there is friendly fire from time to time when people feel like saying or acknowledging anything bad about “your side” is strengthening “the other side”. And hell maybe they’re right I don’t know. It’s all very subjective.

        • @TheFonz
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          02 months ago

          I would say Lemmy is very heavy on emotions. Not a diss on Lemmy. I think it’s a great platform but my god! It’s like being stuck in an elevator with the angriest hormonal teens on the planet. Everyone, jeesus, please just chill and have a convo. My god.