My thoughts is that it’s a simple situation really. If they’re harassing or assaulting people, the women will call the cops or something, simple situation and get the guy arrested. If he’s not doing anything, it’s nothing harmful. Apparently that’s not a solid enough answer. What should I have said?

  • @[email protected]
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    Nothing.

    Nothing is good enough. Gendered bathrooms are about repression. That’s why they are so mad about non-gendered toilets that are popping up.

    • Lettuce eat lettuce
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      This has always confused me for years since this “debate” became part of public dialog.

      Why don’t we just have all non-gender bathrooms? A friend of mine used to live in an apartment building where the common area had 4 non-gendered bathrooms.

      Each had a fold-out changing table, a single toilet, and a sink, so everybody was accommodated. Men, women, non-binary, trans folks, a parent with their baby or young child, and disabled people because the door was wide enough for a wheelchair and the toilets had support bars next to them.

      Fully inclusive to everybody, and nicer than the typical restrooms because they were totally private.

      • @EmpatheticTeddyBear
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        I wish all bathrooms were like this. It would be so much easier for me as well as so many other people.

        • Lettuce eat lettuce
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          I know right! It feels like one of those rare true win-win scenarios where all parties involved are better off by the change.

      • Luke
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        Yes. (Or rather, gender neutral.)

        • Mubelotix
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          It would be cheaper to build actual walls in restrooms than to double their size systematically

        • /home/pineappleloverOP
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          I actually prefer men and women separate restrooms because using the urinals is faster than going in to stalls, which reduces the wait time a bit. Then again, if you have two non gendered restrooms, you’ll get double throughput. Also, it would take a while to get adjusted to seeing both genders in the same restrooms, maybe I’m overthinking it, I’ve heard a university near me has non gendered restrooms only and the students are still adjusting to it.

          Apologies if I’m rambling.

          • queermunist she/her
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            I’m trans and the only reason I stopped using urinals is because it freaked the men out too much lol

            They’re so convenient! You don’t have to touch them! And it feels like my bladder empties more completely when standing idk

            Gender! 👏 Neutral! 👏 Urinals! 👏

          • @[email protected]
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            Meh, urinals are pretty gross and you save pretty marginal amounts of time over quickly sitting down at a toilet

          • @[email protected]
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            Nah you are good.

            The thing about this is that men are provided more space for essentials in the workplace, and making men stand to piss means less physically abled people have more trouble operating in that workplace.

            So outside the gender ick issues there’s equality reasons that gender neutral toilets are a good thing.

          • @[email protected]
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            I mean, you could have urinals in one room and then gender-neutral toilets in another room. Urinals and gender neutral toilets are not mutually exclusive I think.

            • /home/pineappleloverOP
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              Hmm good point. In all the gender neutral restrooms I’ve been in, there’s usually just stalls and no urinals, that’s why I only thought of a stalls only restroom.

      • @Zak
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        When I try to recall the few non-gendered public bathrooms I’ve been in, they all had private stalls with real doors. It was nice. I’d be happy if all public bathrooms were like that.

      • troed
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        Yes. A room with a bunch of stalls and sinks.

        European type stalls that is, floor to ceiling, real doors.

      • @mangaskahn
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        I don’t have gendered restrooms in my house and people seem to navigate those just fine. I feel like it would work for public restrooms too.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’ve only been in a couple non-gendered communal bathrooms and it was a little odd, but only because I wasn’t used to it. The actual mechanics of it were basically the same as a normal bathroom. Go into a stall and do your business then come out and wash your mitts.

        I don’t have a problem with it being the standard. I guess I wouldn’t think it would be a good idea for high schoolers because they’re always in heat.

        • @[email protected]
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          Thats the thing right. You dont care whos shitting in the stall next to you. You’re busy shitting.

          This is (should be) true for any public bathrooms, no matter the sign on the door.

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      Gendered bathrooms where a godsend for women.

      There was a time women couldn’t travel far from their home bathroom. it was called the lavatory leash.

      The current problem is bigots and “communal” toilets (in that order), not gendered toilets.