I guess we are running off on a tangent. Most countries do lobby. Some spend just as much money doing that as Isreal. Nothing new there. Never liked it myself.
Universal health care was discussed in congress and was rejected.
It’s not a tangent, it’s my whole point. How can you honestly expect people to actually respect the POTUS when they fail to even control their own proxies? Foreign lobbying has never been so bad. Trump should have been the oddity in this case but Biden is normalizing it. Keep in mind the US has military bases all over the world and is the only country to be able to launch a full scale offensive anywhere in the world at any moments notice. Not to mention the fact that they have the most advanced and largest arsenal of weapons. Recent years have signaled to the whole world that the might of the American military is open to the highest bidder, and there’s a lot of deep pockets around the world. That doesn’t exactly scream credibility and respectable now does it?
Universal health care was discussed in congress and was rejected.
It was rejected in defiance of the majority of American’s opinion. The same as the inaction when it comes to Israel. That’s been my point. Congress doesn’t always act in the interest of it’s constituents like you claim they do.
Lobbying is basicly as it’s been for years and years by foreign countries. US military bases are there for a multiple of reasons. Mostly, to face aggression like Ukraine is experiencing today. It’s a leftover notion from WWII.
The majority of Americans don’t know what Universal health care is. You could ask why it was defeated, but instead you jump right to congress not listening to their constituents.
The majority of Americans don’t know what Universal health care is. You could ask why it was defeated, but instead you jump right to congress not listening to their constituents.
The reason’s are irrelevant. Fact is, majority wanted it and continue to not get it due to corporate lobbying. This is a common and growing trend within American politics. Again, because of lobbying.
Well, thats sort of the reason Univeral health care failed, yes. The majority of people were polled on it. If I remember right it was inconclusive. Lobbying didn’t have much to do with it. It was one Senator.
So here’s what happened…the Senate during the Health Care debate had very tight voting. During the creation of ACA, Senator Sanders introduced ‘Meicare for All’ which would give you universal health care. He got support to proceed. Then an independent Senator, Joe Libberman from New Hampshire without whose vote the bill could not proceed to the floor, killed it. Why? Because New Hampshire is home to a lot of insurance companies that would lose money. Pretty sure they would lay off a lot of people too. So, you see he did listen to his constitutes.
Joe Lieberman, an independent who caucused with democrats from Connecticut, listened to the businesses in Connecticut, not his constituents. They didn’t re-elect him, but that’s cold comfort.
As of August, AIPAC has already spent over $100 million on lobbying breaking previous records. And the election isnt even over. They spent a significant amount of money to replace 2 Democratic congress members who were vocally pro Palestine to be replaced with pro Israel advocates. Biden has received more money than any other US senator from pro Israeli advocates. And now he is ignoring the voice of the majority in favor of these lobbyists. If you’re going to sit there and tell me this is business as usual and this isn’t a problem, then you’re going to have to actually explain your reasoning here.
Then an independent Senator, Joe Libberman from New Hampshire without whose vote the bill could not proceed to the floor, killed it.
So in essence، a body of elected representatives ignored the voice of the majority of their constituents in favor of corporate interests. Do you not see how you just proved my original point?
I guess we are running off on a tangent. Most countries do lobby. Some spend just as much money doing that as Isreal. Nothing new there. Never liked it myself.
Universal health care was discussed in congress and was rejected.
It’s not a tangent, it’s my whole point. How can you honestly expect people to actually respect the POTUS when they fail to even control their own proxies? Foreign lobbying has never been so bad. Trump should have been the oddity in this case but Biden is normalizing it. Keep in mind the US has military bases all over the world and is the only country to be able to launch a full scale offensive anywhere in the world at any moments notice. Not to mention the fact that they have the most advanced and largest arsenal of weapons. Recent years have signaled to the whole world that the might of the American military is open to the highest bidder, and there’s a lot of deep pockets around the world. That doesn’t exactly scream credibility and respectable now does it?
It was rejected in defiance of the majority of American’s opinion. The same as the inaction when it comes to Israel. That’s been my point. Congress doesn’t always act in the interest of it’s constituents like you claim they do.
Lobbying is basicly as it’s been for years and years by foreign countries. US military bases are there for a multiple of reasons. Mostly, to face aggression like Ukraine is experiencing today. It’s a leftover notion from WWII.
The majority of Americans don’t know what Universal health care is. You could ask why it was defeated, but instead you jump right to congress not listening to their constituents.
That is false. It’s been trending upwards for some time and has never been so high.
The reason’s are irrelevant. Fact is, majority wanted it and continue to not get it due to corporate lobbying. This is a common and growing trend within American politics. Again, because of lobbying.
It’s not false. Cost of money.
Well, thats sort of the reason Univeral health care failed, yes. The majority of people were polled on it. If I remember right it was inconclusive. Lobbying didn’t have much to do with it. It was one Senator.
So here’s what happened…the Senate during the Health Care debate had very tight voting. During the creation of ACA, Senator Sanders introduced ‘Meicare for All’ which would give you universal health care. He got support to proceed. Then an independent Senator, Joe Libberman from New Hampshire without whose vote the bill could not proceed to the floor, killed it. Why? Because New Hampshire is home to a lot of insurance companies that would lose money. Pretty sure they would lay off a lot of people too. So, you see he did listen to his constitutes.
Joe Lieberman, an independent who caucused with democrats from Connecticut, listened to the businesses in Connecticut, not his constituents. They didn’t re-elect him, but that’s cold comfort.
Yeah, but there is no doubt those constitutes would have been affected.
Of course we were affected. The last year I lived in Connecticut, I paid $13k for healthcare, as a mostly healthy person in my 20s.
You would have paid the same with Univeral Healthcare, but if you worked f9r a Connecticut insurance com0any you’d be out of work.
As of August, AIPAC has already spent over $100 million on lobbying breaking previous records. And the election isnt even over. They spent a significant amount of money to replace 2 Democratic congress members who were vocally pro Palestine to be replaced with pro Israel advocates. Biden has received more money than any other US senator from pro Israeli advocates. And now he is ignoring the voice of the majority in favor of these lobbyists. If you’re going to sit there and tell me this is business as usual and this isn’t a problem, then you’re going to have to actually explain your reasoning here.
So in essence، a body of elected representatives ignored the voice of the majority of their constituents in favor of corporate interests. Do you not see how you just proved my original point?