• @[email protected]
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    -41 day ago

    Not saying all of Israel’s money is coming from the US. I’m saying the main reason Israel still exists is because of the money and arms America sends to them. If it weren’t for that I would seriously question Israel’s ability to survive given how hated they are in the region. This level of support let’s the US exert it’s influence on Israel. My original point was that recent years have shifted the dynamic where the US can no longer control Israel and it feels as if is Israel is playing the US.

    • @Carrolade
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      31 day ago

      Having nukes goes a long way to ensuring survival. That said, we definitely have influence, no question. A lot of influence. But even a whole ton of influence is something different from complete obedience.

      For instance, your boss has a lot of influence on you, because they are responsible for your paycheck. However, we would not call it complete obedience, even with your livelihood in their hands. Because of this very basic principle, I would argue the US has never had control over Israel, despite what certain propagandists would claim.

      Hell, they’ve even attacked our navy ships before, decades ago.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 day ago

        No arguments on those points from me. What I’m just saying is that the amount of influence America was capable of exerting on Israel has diminished substantially.

        • @Carrolade
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          31 day ago

          Yeah, I agree. Netanyahu is a very uncooperative fellow, just in general.

          • @[email protected]
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            -124 hours ago

            Netanyahu has been in power for a long time. Every other president in the past was able to handle him even though they didn’t really like him. Biden’s lack of control of the situation to me shows his lack of leadership and ability to take charge. Not a good quality for POTUS.

            • @MegaUltraChicken
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              223 hours ago

              Netanyahu has been in power for a long time. Every other president in the past was able to handle him even though they didn’t really like him.

              I think Bibi being in imminent danger of prison the second he leaves office may have changed this calculus a bit.