• @RegalPotoo
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    171 month ago

    Idk, if I was in a position to be hiring people and I saw “served in the IDF 2023/2024” in the job history section of a CV that’d probably count against a person the same as a conviction for rape or murder.

    • metaStatic
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      111 month ago

      why would they put that on their CV though? oh right they’re fucking proud of this shit.

      • @RegalPotoo
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        41 month ago

        “how do you explain this gap in your job/education history here?”

        • metaStatic
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          51 month ago

          I’ve had a lot of gaps, I literally just extend my last job out to current because I’m always on labour hire so I’m technically still employed.

          So yeah, they would probably just lie on the CV rather than face the questions.

    • @[email protected]
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      51 month ago

      I doubt it ever will in Israel. Their military service is compulsory, so it just means you were a young adult who, when you were initially conscripted, didn’t jump through the hoops to get an exemption.

      • @RegalPotoo
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        61 month ago

        Makes it harder to get a job overseas though I’d hope

        • abff08f4813c
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          21 month ago

          So if it was a case of “yeah I had to join because I was conscripted and it was the law but I just tried to keep my head down until it was over and didn’t do much there” then that’s one thing. Many countries like Ukraine also have compulsory military service, so it’s usually not held against you.

          On the other hand, someone who is like “yeah I signed up as soon as I could so I could have a free hand in committing genocide” would almost certainly have a harder time landing that overseas job.

          • @RegalPotoo
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            11 month ago

            Unless you’ve got an absolutely stellar CV, I don’t see you getting a chance to explain that

            • abff08f4813c
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              11 month ago

              So it really does depend. I’ve been on both sides of overseas hiring (getting hired from overseas on a work permit and helping choose folks to get hired from overseas) - generally, if someone is getting considered for hiring from overseas in a case where they don’t have a right to work (i.e. dual citizenship or similar) then their CV already has to be exceptional. So the odds of being given a chance to explain here - assuming it was questioned - are already very, very high. The other point here is that to actually be allowed to work in a case like this, USCIS or a similar gov’t agency has to vet the worker, so management could easily justify this as saying “well, the gov’t approved our candidate”

              Now, if it’s a case of, e.g., a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen who is coming back to the US and finding a job here after finishing compulsory service in the IDF - afaik it wouldn’t actually be illegal to discriminate in this case, and people get fired or refused the job for actually illegal reasons in the US all the time. On the flip side, it’s easier to lie on your resume in this case (or at least create a gap and hide the real reason behind it).