And if something did maybe happen, it’s the CIA’s fault

    • @Jiggle_Physics
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      03 months ago

      That is not the same as as the subject at hand, I have already addressed this, multiple times, down further. A more apt comparison would have been Kent State. Which was something that was immediately put on the news.

      • @InternetCitizen2
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        13 months ago

        If you do anything that threatens the powerful in the USA you will be cracked down on just as hard. Your example, Edward Snowden, or even the union wars in Appalachia. All are just as forgotten in US public mind as Tianman Square.

        • @Jiggle_Physics
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          13 months ago

          I still see Snowden in the news, and see the information of his documents discussed in mainstream media. Even if it was forgotten, people arern’t being swept away by the feds for talking about online, and on tv.

          • @InternetCitizen2
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            13 months ago

            , people arern’t being swept away by the feds for talking about online, and on tv.

            Because it can no longer affect real change.

              • @InternetCitizen2
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                13 months ago

                I didn’t say it couldn’t in China. I said it happens just the same in America.

                • @Jiggle_Physics
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                  3 months ago

                  Except you brought up the release of classified documents, not discussing something that happened out in the open, in front of the media. Tiananmen Square is not like Snowden leaking documents. What is more comparable is the Kent State massacre. However, that was immediately everywhere, and no one went to prison for reporting it. Where as you can still go to prison over publicly discussing Tiananmen today.

                  Is it bad that that whistle blowers, working government intelligence, are treated as criminals? Yes, yes it is. The fact that this is the whataboutism you jump to, for discussing Tiananmen Square, rather than Kent State, is telling though. You can’t match the reaction to the similar crime. You have to select a completely different government crime to have a similar reaction. Now tell me, how does China treat people who whistle blow government secrets?

                  • @InternetCitizen2
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                    13 months ago

                    Not sure what I am what aboutism here.

                    If you do anything that threatens the powerful in the USA you will be cracked down on just as hard. Your example, Edward Snowden, or even the union wars in Appalachia. All are just as forgotten in US public mind as Tianman Square.

                    All things that had the chance of prompting real change and our government squashed it just as hard.