One of Moscow’s fighter jets has been shot down by Ukrainian forces, according to a military blogger with links to the Russian air force. Another pro-Moscow milblogger said that the Sukhoi Su-34 aircraft had been downed by a Western-supplied F-16.

  • Flying SquidM
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    918 hours ago

    Same. I find it extremely confusing.

    • @InverseParallax
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      35 hours ago

      It started out as good, clean, only partially genocidal fun.

      Then the war started, and it just became fun.

      Imagine a bunch of Tennessee rednecks cheering their kids at a variety football game.

      Now imagine the game ended, they’re very drunk, and their bitter rivals are trying to get to their cars…

    • @mkwt
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      917 hours ago

      NCD these days is a mixed hodgepodge of NATO propaganda, US defense industry propaganda, laughing at wacky military shenanigans around the world, and pornographic degeneracy involving military aircraft and other vehicles.

      NCD started as a spin off from Credible Defense, which is a community where all articles have to be well sourced, arguments well reasoned, and citations are required. NCD has exactly none of those things.

      • Flying SquidM
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        817 hours ago

        It’s the mix that confuses me. And the esoteric military knowledge. Half the time I can’t tell what they’re making fun of.

        • @InverseParallax
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          Worked in the field once, it’s no different than other Fandom, except much less extreme than wh40k of course.

          Watch some Perun, it might help, or maybe not.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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          1710 hours ago

          Also, they somehow manage to create memes that have real world significance.

          “Cope cages” started on NCD, and made it into official NATO military jargon, to the point it’s unironically used by senior NATO generals in public interviews as the proper name for ineffective Russian anti-anti-tank measures made with nothing but a welding torch and creativity.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah, I really wish that people would post context there when they post something. Some of the problem is that people see news, then promptly go to create and post memes joking about a current news item. But if you haven’t seen the news item and don’t know some of the jargon or military history or other context, it can be difficult to understand what’s going on.

          I’ve commented a bunch of times with a “context comment” on posts linking to source material.