• @Maggoty
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    103 months ago

    Iirc Columbus did go back and do his share of abusing too though.

    • @[email protected]
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      73 months ago

      And was removed from his governorship because he was an evil motherfucker even by conquistador standards.

      • Fushuan [he/him]
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        33 months ago

        Not by conquistador standards, conquistadors weren’t a thing when he died. He was the Caribbean governor and conquistadors conquered the rest of americas some years after he died.

        • @[email protected]
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          13 months ago

          1: Would you agree that the Spanish systemically conquered the Caribbean islands to establish the base of operations they needed to expand on the mainland?

          2: What does conquistador directly translate as?

          3: Was Columbus specifically removed because he was bad even by the other conquered islands’ standards?

          • Fushuan [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            Yes. Conqueror. Yes.

            I don’t get if you are trying to be smug about it or whatever, but the “conquerors” were a specific warring campaign soldiers deployed to conquer the rest of america, specifically the Aztecs since those weren’t “easy” to convert to catholicism given that they already had a religion.

            You specifically said “conquistador” standards, which although it’s an Spanish word that translates to conqueror, makes reference to a specific group that wasn’t even formed when Columbus died.

            Anyway, yes he was bad but I don’t get why no fucking one mentions Hernan Cortez, who massacred waaay more people, and went with the intent to murder and dominate them from the very beginning.

            Minor edit: he wasn’t removed of his titles because he was bad/evil, the Spaniard crows didn’t care about the murder of natives. He was removed because he became a tyrant of anyone who lived in the Caribbean, be it native or setter.

            • @[email protected]
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              3 months ago

              Mmhhmm.

              Tell me when conquistador became an official title, and what, exactly, was different about the mainland conquests that means you should treat the armed butchers as a separate entity?

              • Fushuan [he/him]
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                The Spanish name used in an English text has a specific meaning as fas as I know: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquistador

                I really don’t get why you are acting so passive aggressively, it’s you who referenced them instead of saying “contemporary conquerors”, “the crown” or whatever.