Over the past year, the Biden-Harris Administration has continued to take action to fight hatred and violence against Muslim and Arab communities. Members
That’s pretty reductive. How much power do you think the Israeli people have?
I’m American. I know my country is funding this genocide. All I have is my vote, which has very little impact. I care a lot, but other than my vote I’m powerless to stop my government from arming Israel.
The current extremist government in Israel knows exactly what they need to do to stop Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel, they just don’t want to. They’d rather continue to create the conditions for extremism so that these attacks can be used as justification to finish their genocide.
At this point we know that if you keep an entire group of people poor and oppressed with no prospect of economic opportunity or achieving a viable state, they become easier to recruit into a terrorist group. What have they got left to lose? Why NOT grab a rocket and attack your oppressors? This is why international law doesn’t allow the creation of stateless persons…
Israel could STOP settlement expansion into the West Bank, first and foremost. They could start complying with international law and internationally recognized borders. They could stop working AGAINST a two state solution.
Maybe the Israelis could stop assassinating their own leaders when they work towards peaceful solutions. They could also stop radicalizing their own youth and defense forces to believe that the only solution is to exterminate the Palestinians.
There is a whole range of things that they could do… I wonder why they don’t?
What they need to do to stop Hamas and Hazbollah from attacking them is to eliminate them entirely.
I don’t think you understand that the continued existence of groups who’s only purpose in life is to kill a specific subset of people CAN NOT be allowed to exist. They CAN NOT run a state, they CAN NOT be expected to honor any sort of peace treaty.
I’m not blind. I know damn well Israel is committing atrocities during the war. The problem is that the people they’re fighting against are worse than them, so it only makes sense to support Israel until these terrorist groups are dead and gone.
Where did all these evil people come from? Is it possible that Israel’s actions are just going to create even more and worse terrorist groups? Or you think the surviving children will grow up and look kindly on Israel for killing their parents and destroying their homes?
You would rather take your chances with the terrorists that already stated they want to genocide all Jews… Because the alternative is that some of their children might have the same viewpoint in the future?
Well, you already ignored the part about ceasing illegal settlements, supporting a two-state solution, etc… so you’re just proving my point that Israel isn’t interested in a peaceful solutions, they just want to use the entirely predictable terrorist attacks as a blank check to complete their genocide.
Are you kidding me? You think that if Israel left the West bank and Gaza alone that Hamas and Hezbollah would stop attacking them? Am I misunderstanding you right now? Please say yes.
You aren’t allowed to criticize Hamas and Hezbollah on here. Only IDF. Or actually all of Israel. Unless you are some Iranian-backing anti-Zionist, you get downvoted. It’s too bad what has happened to discourse on Lemmy that people aren’t even willing to contemplate the actions of all parties involved.
Okay, now let us know how you plan to keep Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel. Or does it not count when Jews are being genocided?
After burning those kids alive, honestly, I’ve given up caring what happens to the people in Israel.
You’re a bad person then.
You should care. The people are not the leadership.
Apparently the people don’t care enough to stop their soldiers from burning kids alive. Why should I care what happens to them?
That’s pretty reductive. How much power do you think the Israeli people have?
I’m American. I know my country is funding this genocide. All I have is my vote, which has very little impact. I care a lot, but other than my vote I’m powerless to stop my government from arming Israel.
The Israeli citizens are similarly powerless.
No. Governments exist by the consent of the governed.
And the Israeli people recently protested in favor of torturing Palestinians. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2q07kd3ld6o
Aaron Bushnell said he wasn’t going to let the U.S. do a genocide in his name.
Majority of Americans support a ceasefire. Majority of Israelis support what the IDF is doing. There’s a big difference.
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The current extremist government in Israel knows exactly what they need to do to stop Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel, they just don’t want to. They’d rather continue to create the conditions for extremism so that these attacks can be used as justification to finish their genocide.
At this point we know that if you keep an entire group of people poor and oppressed with no prospect of economic opportunity or achieving a viable state, they become easier to recruit into a terrorist group. What have they got left to lose? Why NOT grab a rocket and attack your oppressors? This is why international law doesn’t allow the creation of stateless persons…
Israel could STOP settlement expansion into the West Bank, first and foremost. They could start complying with international law and internationally recognized borders. They could stop working AGAINST a two state solution.
Maybe the Israelis could stop assassinating their own leaders when they work towards peaceful solutions. They could also stop radicalizing their own youth and defense forces to believe that the only solution is to exterminate the Palestinians.
There is a whole range of things that they could do… I wonder why they don’t?
What they need to do to stop Hamas and Hazbollah from attacking them is to eliminate them entirely.
I don’t think you understand that the continued existence of groups who’s only purpose in life is to kill a specific subset of people CAN NOT be allowed to exist. They CAN NOT run a state, they CAN NOT be expected to honor any sort of peace treaty.
I’m not blind. I know damn well Israel is committing atrocities during the war. The problem is that the people they’re fighting against are worse than them, so it only makes sense to support Israel until these terrorist groups are dead and gone.
Where did all these evil people come from? Is it possible that Israel’s actions are just going to create even more and worse terrorist groups? Or you think the surviving children will grow up and look kindly on Israel for killing their parents and destroying their homes?
You would rather take your chances with the terrorists that already stated they want to genocide all Jews… Because the alternative is that some of their children might have the same viewpoint in the future?
Wow what a tough choice.
How about stop creating terrorists? These people attack the rest of us too. Is the Israeli plan just to kill every Arab in the region?
Damn what a good idea. Stop creating terrorists. Please tell us how you plan to do that!
I’m sure your answer surely isn’t “Well just go back to Israel getting rockets launched at them every day but they aren’t allowed to retaliate!”
“Just let another October 7th massacre happen. But they aren’t allowed to retaliate!”
I’m sure eventually the terrorists will just give up or something right?
Genuinely though, if you have a better answer I’m all ears because I haven’t heard of one yet and I would love to look for better options.
Well, you already ignored the part about ceasing illegal settlements, supporting a two-state solution, etc… so you’re just proving my point that Israel isn’t interested in a peaceful solutions, they just want to use the entirely predictable terrorist attacks as a blank check to complete their genocide.
Are you kidding me? You think that if Israel left the West bank and Gaza alone that Hamas and Hezbollah would stop attacking them? Am I misunderstanding you right now? Please say yes.
You aren’t allowed to criticize Hamas and Hezbollah on here. Only IDF. Or actually all of Israel. Unless you are some Iranian-backing anti-Zionist, you get downvoted. It’s too bad what has happened to discourse on Lemmy that people aren’t even willing to contemplate the actions of all parties involved.