“Passkeys,” the secure authentication mechanism built to replace passwords, are getting more portable and easier for organizations to implement thanks to new initiatives the FIDO Alliance announced on Monday.

  • @[email protected]
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    8 hours ago

    Literally just use a password manager and 2/MFA. It’s not a problem. We have a solution.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 hour ago

      I mean, it is. Aside from an additional associated cost, it’s still much less convenient.

    • @[email protected]
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      106 hours ago

      Never forget that technologically speaking you’re nothing like the average user. Only 1 in 3 users use password managers. Most people just remember 1 password and use it everywhere (or some other similarly weak setup).

      Not remembering passwords is a huge boon for most users, and passkeys are a very simple and secure way of handling it.

    • @[email protected]
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      287 hours ago

      Actually, it is still a problem, because passwords are a shared secret between you and the server, which means the server has that secret in some sort of form. With passkeys, the server never has the secret.

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        56 hours ago

        Best password manager is offline password manager.

        KeepassXC makes a file with the passwords that is encrypted, sharing this file with a server is more secure than letting the server manage your passwords

        • @[email protected]
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          26 hours ago

          I agree, and that’s my method as well. Although I do not ever share the file with a server either. I only transfer it from device to device with flash drives or syncthing.

      • @[email protected]
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        57 hours ago

        The shared secret with my Vaultwarden server? Add mfa and someone needs to explain to me how passkeys do anything more than saving one single solitary click.

        • @[email protected]
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          106 hours ago

          When a website gets hacked they only find public keys, which are useless without the private keys.

          Private keys stored on a password manager are still more secure, as those services are (hopefully!) designed with security in mind from the beginning.

        • @[email protected]
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          107 hours ago

          Pass keys are for websites such as Google, Facebook, TikTok, etc. And then they go into what is currently your password manager or if you don’t have one, it goes into your device. You still have to prove to that password manager that you are, who you say you are, either by a master password of some sort or biometrics.

      • @[email protected]
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        37 hours ago

        You can share passwords without the server seeing them. Many managers don’t but there’s nothing infeasible there. You just have a password to unlock the manager. Done.

        • @[email protected]
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          17 hours ago

          What I’m getting at is that a web server has a password, in some form. And so if that site gets breached, your password itself may not get leaked, but the hash will. And if the hash is a common hash, then it can be easily cracked or guessed.

          • @[email protected]
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            66 hours ago

            Ultimately I’m pro passkey but when it comes to password managers: if the hash of your vault is easy to crack you’ve fucked up big time. There shouldn’t be any way to crack that key with current tech before the sun explodes because you should be using a high entropy passphrase.