• abff08f4813c
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    Has she said she’s stop shipping them weapons

    As per the headline on https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/09/18/harris-supports-pausing-arms-shipment-to-israel/

    Harris ‘entirely supportive’ of using arms as leverage on Israel

    So…

    Please correct me if I’m mistaken about that.

    Happy to have done so!

    No, right.

    Even though this was a yes, she absolutely has room to go more here, and I hope she does.

    and breaking US law about enabling regimes plausibly commiting war crimes?

    This one is oddly specific. So if Harris doesn’t exactly and precisely have that one specific view, then she would be a sock puppet no matter how far apart her beliefs are from Bidens?

    On https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/us-elections-kamala-harris-biden-gaza-israel-war/ there are some specific examples of how she’s grown apart from Biden (while acknowledging that it’s not quite enough and suggesting that she should go even further).

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      This one is oddly specific. So if Harris doesn’t exactly and precisely have that one specific view, then she would be a sock puppet no matter how far apart her beliefs are from Bidens?

      Oddly? you say? The Leahy laws are specific. Have you heard of those? And you ship weapons or you dont. You see nuance there huh. Thats telling. Harris has committed to being “concerned about” food aid and thats it. Otherwise she has followed the Hasbarah playbook to a T. I keep seeing people hopeful she will chart a different couse, when she has explicitely stated she will continue the curret course. I think people are filled with Hopium about her pruposefully vague sentiments. She has simultaneously parroted the typical Hasbara script, stating that all of this started on Oct 7, that Israel wants its hostages back, and that Israelis have a “right to defend themselves”. She has also talked down to student protestors. She’s accepted AIPAC donations.

      You quoted me a link from a tiny Israeli site that has a yellow war ribbon in their logo.
      “Israelhayam” a far right low factual reporting website. That one of your favorites? I see on their front page its all war salivating israeli audience stuff. You Israeli? https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/israel-hayom/

      So you’re pushing Israeli propoganda. In their article they talk about a threat to pause shipments in May, in an article published in September. A single threat to pause that wasnt actually carried out, was it. Biden pretends to push back but he never has actually pulled the trigger on any actual pushback. And a pause – essentially a delay in shipping, Same as your amazon package getting delayed. Even if it was true and not made up, its is a meangless performative gesture at best. Biden has used exactly zero of his levers to move toward peace, and 100 percent of his levers to encourage the expansion and impunity of a bloodthirsty genocide and ethnic cleansing.

      And Harris has indicated that she will continue on the same course he has charted.