• @Machinist
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    22 months ago

    Wow, you’re catching all the down votes for this. For a valid opinion. Way to go Lemmy. Points don’t matter here, so whatever.

    Anyhow, I don’t have your optimism about this at all.

    Would you describe yourself as a generally optimistic person?

    Is it a feeling or do you have a chain of logic that causes you to conclude there will be a positive outcome?

    • @rhacer
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      62 months ago

      Thanks for this post. I appreciate the fact that you’re engaging in good faith.

      I tell people I’m an optimistic pessimist. Absolutely convinced the world is going to hell, but that we’ll have a helluva good time along the way.

      I think our also helps that I’m old. My son’s are likely older than most Lemmy users. I’m older than Pong, so I’ve watched the world change a lot in my six decades. A lot of people have predicted a lot of doom in those years, and the doomsayers have pretty much always been wrong.

      Our nation is far from perfect, but we have been changing in a positive direction my entire life. I didn’t expect that to change because an Orange Idiot may be in the Oval Office again.

      • @Machinist
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        42 months ago

        I’m in my forties. Was raised with an apocalyptic mindset.

        I really hope you’re right. Our family motto is pretty much hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

        We keep a well stocked pantry, recently bought a little play farm and moved to a purple state instead of deep red. The move was a positive change for my family. COVID and political insanity gave us the push we needed to take the leap. Our friends and family mostly went deep down the rabbit hole and we didn’t have ties holding us anymore.

        Anyhow, I don’t have warm fuzzies about the future, but about all I can do is build a new life in a new place for my people. Crazy is lower where we are now, schools are better, cost of living is cheaper, weather is cooler and less violent. Long term, possible grandkids are positioned better for climate change, we’ll have our little farm producing our own meat and some vegetables.

        Honestly, I really hope things continue to improve. You’re right, many things have gotten better. However, I’ve seen friends and family spouting insane shit and a New York city slicker con man be worshipped. It feels different. The parallels between the Nazis and this terrify me.

        • @rhacer
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          42 months ago

          I envy you having a farm! My wife’s a Soldier we move a lot currently I’m sitting amongst a lot of cornfields. While I’m surprised at how much I like it here, I really miss Kentucky which is where we moved from.

          The worshipping of the con man really bugs me. I came out of the religious right, and while I believe that it is possible for someone to support Trump for completely valid reasons, I didn’t believe you can be a Christian and do so. If you are a Christian and support him, you are a shitty Christian. Don’t be surprised if whenyou get to the Pearly Gates you hear “get away from me for I never new you!”